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Firefox
Sat Jun 28 2008, 04:53AM Print
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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I recently helped my dad dismantle some very old florescent light fixtures at a restaurant he was working at, and since the owner was getting rid of them, I kept the ballasts. I've heard that they give out the high voltage needed to start an arc through the bulb, but I don't have any clue how they work. Now that I have them, is there any use to these things at all, or should I just get rid of them?
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Sulaiman
Sat Jun 28 2008, 06:00AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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The ballasts are simply inductors.
When the lamp is on the ballast impedance (2.pi.F.L) limits the current through the lamp.
To start the lamp the 'starter' is initially a closed bi-metalic switch that opens due to the current heating the contacts,
this produces a flyback/kickback voltage spike that starts the lamp.
Neon gas in the starter allows just enough current to flow to keep the contacts open.

So what you have are several inductors.
Now your challenge is to find an exciting use for them.
(or sell them for the scrap value)
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Dr. SSTC
Wed Jul 02 2008, 08:20AM
Dr. SSTC Registered Member #1407 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 07:09AM
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why would you trow them away they cost a fair amount of money and you can use ahem for other ballasting applications not just flluorecent bulbs
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Coronafix
Wed Jul 02 2008, 10:23AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Someone has used them as ballasts for a TC, I think it was for a MOT.
They used a couple in series. That's all the info I remember though.
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vasil
Wed Jul 02 2008, 03:37PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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...not in series, but in parallel

http://www.geocities.com/livvasil/4kvtcsch.html

2, 3, or more in parallel to get the current you need

http://www.geocities.com/romtcb/dssetup2.jpg
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Coronafix
Wed Jul 02 2008, 11:12PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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I thought it was you Vasil, but I couldn't find it on your site when I wrote it.
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Marko
Thu Jul 03 2008, 12:45AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
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What vasil used seem to be mercury arc lamp chokes, not the fluorescent lamp ballasts.

No way you could ballast MOT primaries with fluorescent lamp ballasts, as they are very high inductance and even the largest don't support more than like 200mA. Tens of them in parallel would be needed!

One would have better luck ballasting the secondary side with some of them in series to get enough voltage rating.


I see them most useful as charging reactors in DC resonant charging system, as they have high inductance and can stand several kilovolts. Still a number of them in series would be required to get to usual >20kV voltages commonly used, I think.

Marko
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Firefox
Thu Jul 03 2008, 01:55AM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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Should I take the three I have out of their cases and oil and put them in a new bath then? It seems there is a lot of weight in metal case that I can lose.
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Steve Conner
Thu Jul 03 2008, 09:18AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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If they have oil inside, they're not ballasts. Every ballast I've ever seen was just an iron core with some coils of wire. They're probably power factor correction capacitors, and if they really are "very old", then you might want to watch out for PCB oil. If you post some pics, that might help.
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