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ea6b607
Wed Jun 11 2008, 05:19AM Print
ea6b607 Registered Member #1320 Joined: Sat Feb 16 2008, 01:31AM
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Well I've never really much gotten into the true HV stuff past what I get out of my flyback, so I thought this would be a nice introduction to me. I have a few questions though. Well a lot of questions, not much looking to waste too much money or kill myself in the process. My plan is to run my MOT at high frequency to run a 5 stage CW (about 20kv output?) then I will use this to charge a Marx generator with as many stages as I see feasible.

1) can you use a CW to charge the capacitors in a Marx generator?

2) any good references for making a simple high frequency generator?

3) will a flyback transformer work?

4) do i need capacitors rated for the full output of the CW for all the stages. Also for this relatively low voltage what would be a decent frequency and a decent capacitance?

Sorry for so many questions, but this is a new area for me.
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Berni
Wed Jun 11 2008, 05:54AM
Berni Registered Member #1132 Joined: Mon Nov 19 2007, 06:15PM
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How do you expect a 50/60Hz microvave trasnformer to run at high freqency?

Why dont you just power it with your flyback if its not rectefied.
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ea6b607
Wed Jun 11 2008, 06:44AM
ea6b607 Registered Member #1320 Joined: Sat Feb 16 2008, 01:31AM
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That makes sense. Sorry if I say anything stupid btw. Wouldn't I need fairly high capacitance then with low frequency?
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Lakeowner
Wed Jun 11 2008, 08:58AM
Lakeowner Registered Member #1370 Joined: Mon Mar 03 2008, 09:01AM
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Yes, you will need bigger caps with lower frequencies.
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Firefox
Wed Jun 11 2008, 10:59PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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I built an 18 stage CW with 400V 22 nF caps and 400V diodes, powered by an unrectified photoflash board. It worked just fine for charging a 22nF PET rolled cap, and a 4 stage Marx built from these caps.
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ea6b607
Thu Jun 12 2008, 04:15AM
ea6b607 Registered Member #1320 Joined: Sat Feb 16 2008, 01:31AM
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I stumbled across this on ebay Link2 it appears to be a several stage marx generator, but how on earth is it so small? I'm considering purchasing one to charge caps ina second larger marx generator think it would work?
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teravolt
Thu Jun 12 2008, 04:21AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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mot transformers will not run more than 400hz because of the iron core. higher frequencies reqire ferite cores. I have used CW's to charge a marx.
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quicksilver
Thu Jun 12 2008, 02:40PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
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ea6b607 wrote ...

I stumbled across this on ebay
I am not sure but I believe they are hand wound coil and step-up , potted units made in Asia for the "stun-gun" market. Note the "6vdc to 100k" remark? I couldn't get a side view but I think I recognize this little item. They do put out a nice spark. But I'm skeptical about their longevity. They have a ferrite rod coil (that's the tough part to design & build) and a 4 stage crowded into a PVC potted with epoxy. I could be wrong; but it looks familiar.
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