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dingo27
Sun May 25 2008, 10:28PM Print
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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i want to wind GDT, and i saw pictures of steve´s wards drsstc, where he was using UTP cable from LAN networks. I also have one (but i have 2 wires twisted, not all 8 but allocated to "twists")

how can i know the number of turns, if the core is good etc...? Or rather i should buy chokes, unwire it and wire again?

Thanks !
(sorry for english i dunno how to write that :(
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Dago
Mon May 26 2008, 07:28AM
Dago Registered Member #538 Joined: Sun Feb 18 2007, 08:33PM
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You cant use choke cores because they are made from powdered iron which is very lossy at higher frequencies, you need proper ferrite. You want a ferrite core with a high Al value to get low leakage inductance.

Theres a couple good resources on SSTC GDT design, thedatastreams GDT design guide: Link2
And Jan Wagners notes on GDT design: Link2

Btw. I dont think this has anything to do with high voltage.
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101111
Mon May 26 2008, 07:30AM
101111 Registered Member #575 Joined: Sun Mar 11 2007, 04:00AM
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Check this link out, allot of useful information.

Link2
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Avi
Mon May 26 2008, 08:28AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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don't forget our wiki Link2
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dingo27
Mon May 26 2008, 10:35PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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thanks folks, that pages were great !
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MRacerxdl
Mon May 26 2008, 11:40PM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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How about using some EE Cores of computer PSU to do the GDT? Someone as already tested it?
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Avi
Tue May 27 2008, 12:14AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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ive been trying to get one of those open rolleyes
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue May 27 2008, 06:15AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Mestre Racerxdl wrote ...

How about using some EE Cores of computer PSU to do the GDT? Someone as already tested it?
Works OK. Boil the transformer for at least 5 minutes, then pull the core halves apart as much as you can (using pliers/kitchen gloves etc.), be careful not to crack the ferrite. If it won't come apart, boil another 5 minutes.
When putting back together, make sure there is as small gap in the core as possible, otherwise the magnetizing inductance will go down and the transformer will draw more current unloaded.






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MRacerxdl
Tue May 27 2008, 08:51AM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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You mean a gap between EE Cores or a gap between the cores and the wire?
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dingo27
Tue May 27 2008, 06:08PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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i thought you ment toroidal cores... i use that one, but i dont have anything to compare, only to RF filter core from ground line from CRT (it was worse)

this one looks good and i was using that in several applications (i'll post photo)

//Did you mean those ones???
Link2

the big one is "big poppa" used for coilgun charging, the smaller one is original (yet) and color is my current GDT (i dont wanted to put it out of protoboard, so sorry for bad image)

//i tried that trick with boiling water... first i broke some corec, but when i got to the "principle" of doing that right, i suddenly get to heaven: Link2
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