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Using LEDs as photodiodes?

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Dr. Shark
Tue Apr 22 2008, 12:32PM Print
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
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I found a couple of pages on the internet Link2 Link2 Link2 Link2 that describe how an ordinary LED can be used as a photodiode. This is pretty neat, since LEDs are everywhere, but photodiodes tend to be expensive, specialized devices, that are way overspec'd for simple on/off sensing as e.g. in a multistage coilgun.

I wonder if anyone has tried this approach? In the articles linked above, people connected the LED directly to a µ-Controller, and most of them report a lot of trouble to get it to work reliably. I was thinking of using an Op-Amp though, with the standard photocurrent-to-voltage conversion Link2 arrangement. This should provide a lot better sensitivity than directly connecting it to a PIC or AVR, right?

I'd just like to get some feedback if this looks like it would work, since I don't want to introduce any extra uncertainties in my already marginal design...
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flannelhead
Tue Apr 22 2008, 12:58PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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Ah...
reminds me of BEAM robotics I did in last summer. Link2
I tried to make a robot called "the FRED photopopper" which used FLEDs to sense light. Link2 Too bad, I never got it working properly frown
There are many other robotics circuits which use a LEDs to sense light. Usually the signal is just fed into a logic chip and an amplifier to drive motors. Link2
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Bjørn
Tue Apr 22 2008, 03:46PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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I have done this several times. Different types of LED have different characteristics as sensors. I have managed to get 2 mA from one using bright IR light.

Current to voltage conversion was the method I found to work best. I also had to try a few different types before finding some good ones.
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Nik
Wed Apr 23 2008, 02:59AM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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I saw this Link2 a few years ago, it's a good proof of concept.
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flannelhead
Wed Apr 23 2008, 12:19PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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Gosh, he promises on the page "More info coming soon, I promise" and last page update 06/05/2006. Sad, that could've been a good source of information.
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