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rp181
Wed Mar 12 2008, 12:48AM Print
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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I just got a decent sized TV that was broken, but the flyback still works (the screen was all fuzzy and impossible to clear). Now when ever i try to draw arcs (the driver is whatever is already on board), i get a short bright arc when i get close enough. Then the flyback shuts of, and after a few seconds, turns back on. Will that be a problem when i seperate it from the board and use a different driver?

How can i identify the transistor on the TV which is used to drive the flyback? There are several ones with heatsinks.

The flyback is 29.5Kv (says on flyback). The flyback has a *big* green dot, which is the mark of a good flyback (according to a webpage)

EDIT:
I got a transistor off, its the biggest one and close to the flyback, it has
D2578
1H3
on it. How can i identfy BCE?



On a side note, is there any chance i can use the electron gun?
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Bjørn
Wed Mar 12 2008, 02:02AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Drawing arcs without a current limiting resistor may possibly destroy the flyback. It has capacitors and diodes in it that might not like the current.

It will not turn itself off with a driver that is designed to not turn itself off.

Read the numbers and letters on the transistors and google them. Take the one that stands a high voltage and a high current.
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rp181
Wed Mar 12 2008, 02:24AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Does the resistor go before or after the flyback? (driver or HV?) What resistance should it be? If its on the driver side, will the single transistor driver have it built in? Thinking the voltage divider would protect it. Do they need to be high wattage resistors?

Sorry for all the questions, dont want to burn this.
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Andyman
Wed Mar 12 2008, 04:33AM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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Take the number on the face of the transistor and go to a site such as alldatasheet.com and punch it in. You should get a few results with a pdf datasheet.
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Mar 12 2008, 07:01AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I strongly suggest you to build a better driver, search "zvs flyback driver". The reason is that the transistor in the TV is useless for driving flybacks at lower voltages, it gets very hot and the output arc is ofter just very small.



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lpfthings
Wed Mar 12 2008, 10:46AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Yeah, even the "single transistor" driver will work better. It worked really well for me, and since its self tuning it doesnt take much to get it to work.
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Electroholic
Wed Mar 12 2008, 10:54AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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thats a 2SD2578
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rp181
Wed Mar 12 2008, 01:19PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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i think i burned the transistor =/

Im just trying to get this to work until i get a trsnsistor for that driver. I just cant get a 2n3005 (not at radio shack) and shipping online is 6$ ;(.

Dosnt the ZVS Driver burn out alot of flybacks? I wound my own primary on the exposed ferrite, 6 for primary, 3 for feedback.

Edit: i found the BCE of the 2SD2578, it said on the PCB =p
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Logan Kennedy
Wed Mar 12 2008, 03:10PM
Logan Kennedy Registered Member #1103 Joined: Mon Nov 05 2007, 06:02PM
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wrote ...
Dosnt the ZVS Driver burn out alot of flybacks?

The potential exists, but if you keep power levels low, and slowly ramp up the voltage then you should be able to drive it near breaking point if you're careful. I'd start out with a mere 12V and work up from there, the flyback will probably start to break down around 30-40 volts depending on how much amperage you're drawing.
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Andyman
Wed Mar 12 2008, 09:03PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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Yeah, I burned out my original tv transistor pretty quickly. They aren't meant to be overdriven at all.
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