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chek
Tue Mar 04 2008, 12:51PM Print
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hi everyone..i'm newbie, i want to know if there someone that could help me in designing and building a 15kV cockcroft - walton high voltage multiplier...
i got some problem in choosing the suitable diode...
anyone got suggestion in what type of diode that i should use??
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Avi
Tue Mar 04 2008, 01:01PM
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Link2
check 'BY series' diodes.
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chek
Tue Mar 04 2008, 02:50PM
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i have calculated the stage and completed the design..
but i need some opinion in choosing the right diode n capacitor...some idea said that 1N4007 are suitable...
so if someone have done this kind of project, can you give some advice..
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flannelhead
Tue Mar 04 2008, 03:16PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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1N4007 diodes can stand 30A peak current so let's suppose it is enough. How many stages are you planning and what is your supply voltage? One 1N4007 stands 1kV, for higher supply voltages you must wire some of them in series.
For capacitors, you can make your own Link2 or buy some commercial caps. Each cap must stand the supply voltage.

Good luck! smile
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chek
Tue Mar 04 2008, 06:07PM
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the input of this CW circuit is 240 ac voltage...so it is required to wire the 1N4007 in series?? the desired output of the circuit is 15kV...
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Sulaiman
Tue Mar 04 2008, 10:29PM
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You can use 1N4007 diodes (2 per stage) and 10 nF 1 kV ceramic capacitors
15 kV will require many stages (at least 15,000/2x1.414x240 = 23 stages minimum)
the available output current will be less than one milliamp, but it will work.

Add at least 10 kOhm of resistors in series with the high voltage output or you will destroy the diodes!

I have a 15-stage C-W multiplier with (30x) 1N4007 and (30x) 10nF 1kV disk ceramic capacitors - it works.
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chek
Wed Mar 05 2008, 05:38AM
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sulaiman..can you show me your schematic diagram of your project??it may help me a lot...
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Sulaiman
Wed Mar 05 2008, 06:55AM
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Something like this

1204700119 162 FT40493 Cwmult
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chek
Wed Mar 05 2008, 05:36PM
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thanks sulaiman..there something i want to ask...
what is the main evaluation in choosing the right component??
what kind of simulation program that you used to simulate this kind of project??
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Sulaiman
Wed Mar 05 2008, 07:17PM
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First I must give credit to the copyright owners,
the circuit diagram is copied from the instructions of an ionizer kit that I got on offer many years ago
Link2

The main considerations are;

1) Voltage ratings
All diodes and capacitors need a voltage rating of at least 2 x SQRT(2) x Vac
which for 240 Vac means 1000 volt rated devices.

2) Capacitance values
The frequency and capacitance values determine how much the output voltage will drop when current is drawn.
A good starting reference is: Link2

3) Number of stages
Each stage will give approximately 2 x SQRT(2) x Vac Volts dc with no load
(one stage is two diodes and two capacitors)
design for about 1.5x the on-load voltage

There are other considerations and other C-W type multiplier configurations, Google for more info.
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