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Bjørn
Wed Mar 05 2008, 03:24AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Small coil guns can be switched without hardly any noise using primitive mechanical switches. Try a light switch or maybe a relay. If you find a suitable type it will be pretty quiet and not weld the contacts too often,
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Shaun
Wed Mar 05 2008, 04:42AM
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My very first coilgun was triggered by a large-ish rocker switch for automotive use I picked up at the hardware store. No noise other than the "click" the switch makes, and it still works to this day.

It fires 64J worth of photoflash caps.
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Weston
Wed Mar 05 2008, 05:08PM
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How many amps peak was that? Right now I am looking for a SCR for my demo coil gun and I just want a ballpark guess for the current it will have to switch.
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Shaun
Wed Mar 05 2008, 10:13PM
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For energies less than 150J or so, I prefer the TYN640 SCRs; they're these little TO-220 guys that can handle 600V and 420Apk. I usually buy them 10 at a time on Digikey, since as far as I can tell they're cheap and reliable.

And no I have no idea what kind of current my coilgun was switching. I have a homemade clamp-on oscilloscope CT, using an old probe with the head cut off, a broken ferrite toroid, and a jumper cable clamp. It outputs 100mV per Amp, so the most I can measure on my scope (5V/div max) is +/-250A. Not enough for a coilgun, but then again this was made for SSTCs/DRSSTCs.
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rp181
Wed Mar 05 2008, 10:56PM
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Can SCR's be put in parrallel to handle more current?
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Weston
Wed Mar 05 2008, 11:28PM
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Would 300 amps be in the ballpark for 200 uf of photo flash caps? I am restricted to only things I can get from frys and they have a nice stud type SCR that can switch 300 amps peak.
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flannelhead
Thu Mar 06 2008, 01:34PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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Shaun wrote ...

Spark, maybe you are thinking of knife switch? Like the big switches you might see in Dr. Frankenstein's lab?

Toggle switch was the word I was searching for. My switch was much like this:

Switch
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Weston
Thu Mar 06 2008, 08:39PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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I have one like that! cheesey
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flannelhead
Fri Mar 07 2008, 01:39PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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You could try with it. It makes a bang when switching, but IIRC it wasn't too loud. However, you shouldn't use it with a too big cap bank. Mine was probably 20J. Every time you trigger it the switch welds closed but not badly.

This isn't the most reliable switching method and the switch won't last very long. If you have a change to get a SCR, then get it. It'll be a lot better.
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Weston
Fri Mar 07 2008, 08:41PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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approximately how many amps does 20j equal?
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