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Two (Bernoulli) balls and a (pea) cock's appendages

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Tesladownunder
Tue Feb 26 2008, 11:51AM Print
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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Here are two Bernoulli balls stabilised by three peacock feathers.
Leaf blower power. Very much more stable even in a significant cross wind which a normal Bernoulli ball will not tolerate.

TDU



1204026307 10 FT0 Bernoulli2balls

1204026307 10 FT0 Bernoulliballflash1
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Firnagzen
Wed Feb 27 2008, 07:58AM
Firnagzen Registered Member #567 Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 10:55AM
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Mm. Why peacock's feathers?

Idea: add little vanes near the ball and make the whole thing spin. Gyroscopic stability!
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Tesladownunder
Wed Feb 27 2008, 11:36AM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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The story behind the peacock feathers: There is a dedicated Bernoulli setup at the Gravity Discovery Cente where I have 4 displays. It will blow up two 6-8 inch plastic or polystyrene balls.
Peacock feathers are also sold there and one visiting child stuck several into the polystyrene ball. While his father was berating him the Center attendant noted that it was really stable so they got left stuck in.
I picked up a few feathers for free to experiment.

Firnagzen wrote ...

Idea: add little vanes near the ball and make the whole thing spin. Gyroscopic stability!
Won't help at all. Think about it. It is a sphere which might precess if you apply a force which applies to change the axis of rotation. But it will still be a sphere of the same shape. From a practical point of view a wind blowing it sideways will have just the same effect. So will the blower up and down.
One of the polystyrene balls has a central hole and really gets up a spin. Just as unstable as predicted.

The pic shows one of my new purchases - some stainless steel gazing balls which had been floating in an ornamental pool for 3 years unsold in a garden place.
It is being levitated a much smaller amount due to the weight.
I didn't realise the appropriateness of my t-shirt slogan until I had already set things up.

TDU
1204111750 10 FT39937 Bernoulligazing
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CompWiz
Wed Feb 27 2008, 03:58PM
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Those are fun to play with.

Now where did i put those ping pong balls...
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rp181
Wed Feb 27 2008, 10:41PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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i read bout this in expirement book, except it is blowin at pingpong ball upside don thruogh funnel.

cool =)

Is th stainles steel ball hollow? asuming it is.
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Firnagzen
Thu Feb 28 2008, 09:58AM
Firnagzen Registered Member #567 Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 10:55AM
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...Balls by Picasso?

Also, it's true that for a sphere, vanes wouldn't help, but a sphere with feathers and vanes on it isn't really a sphere anymore, is it?
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