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rp181
Thu Feb 14 2008, 10:50PM Print
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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so im doing my science fair project on Magnetohydrodynamics and how different magnetic field locations and strengths affects the movement of the water.

So i can test that, but how do i measure the speed of the water? My only idea is food coloring from 1 point to another, and that seems unreliable.

Another question, I have a 16v 4.5A laptop power adapter. The adapter has short circuit portection and someone here said it would only work with >4 ohms of resistance. On another project, im using NaOH for an electrolysis cell, and i have maybe 2 ohms of resistance. without increasing the resistance, is there any way i can "bypass" the short circuit protection and maybe do something so it limits the current drawn by the cell?
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cjk2
Fri Feb 15 2008, 12:06AM
cjk2 Registered Member #51 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:17AM
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16v into 2 ohms will pull 8a. Bypassing the shortcircuit protection will only cause it to blow a fuse or melt. Try moving the electrodes further apart, use a power supply that can handle the current, or use a lower voltage power supply. Try a real ATX smps, they can easily do 10a at 12v and can be hacked for anywhere from 5v to 20v.
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rp181
Fri Feb 15 2008, 12:26AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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i had an ATX Power supply, im guessing i didnt have a minimum load so the thing melted inside. Im getting another one soon, do you think 20 ohms (2x 10W resistors in seris)across the 5v line will be enough as a load?


EDIT: i got some parts from the supply, how can i find the inductance of one of the inductors? its a powder iron core. One film cap(?) says F 1.0k
MD 250v

whats the capacitance of this?
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teslacoolguy
Fri Feb 15 2008, 01:04AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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i use a 10 ohm 10 watt wirewound from radioshack and it works just fine. i heatsinked it to the case and it barely gets warm so i suggest trying that 1st
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Firnagzen
Fri Feb 15 2008, 02:45AM
Firnagzen Registered Member #567 Joined: Tue Mar 06 2007, 10:55AM
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To measure the water speed, try picking up a cheap anemometer (One with the cups sticking out) and push the cups into the water. Try not to get anything else wet.
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Dave Marshall
Fri Feb 15 2008, 04:06AM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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You could quite easily brew up a little waterwheel that could measure water speed. Use a LED an phototransistor to detect the speed of the wheel in RPM, then do some quick math to determine forward speed of the water. So long as you make the wheel very light, it should be pretty accurate.

Dave
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