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Wich ferite toroid is best for 300KHz full-bridge mosfet driving ??

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Linas
Sun Jan 13 2008, 07:53AM Print
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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Hi
Wich torroid is best for GDT ??
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Sulaiman
Sun Jan 13 2008, 12:11PM
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All of those ferrites would work but I would use the 3F3 material because
- you want high permeability to ensure low leakage inductance, so the 3E25 material would seem best.
- you don't want large core losses, and from the graph it looks like the 3E25 material peaks in permeability exactly at the frequency that you want to operate at. To reduce core losses I'd go for the next lower permeability material, 3F3.
-Also I have good experience with 3C85 at 300 kHz which is very like 3F3.

You should use the SMALLEST core that will work to reduce leakage inductance, cost, losses .....
but use one large enough to make winding and insulation practical.
REMEMBER, one or more windings of the GDT will be at live mains voltage, one or more windings will connect to the low-voltage circuitry that it is convenient to adjust whilst running.
A good GDT should have low leakage inductance, safe insulation and low loss.

For example - F=300 kHz, +/- 15V primary and secondary voltages.
At 300 kHz +/- 50mT should be ok for 3F3 core losses
e.g. TN 16/9,6/6.3,
Ae = 19.7 mmsq. Phi = total flux = 50mT x 19.7 mm2 = 985 nWb
Since Phi also = Integral (e.dt) = e.t for a squarewave, t= 1/2 x 1/F = 1.666 us
so e = (985 x 1E-9)/(1.66666 E-6) = 0.591 Volts per turn.
So 15V requires 25.38 turns. sounds reasonable.
IF N=26 then L=26x26 x 1.16 = 784 uH
Magnetizing current = 15V x 1.666 uS/784 uH = 32 mA, which is quite good.
and there should be enough space to wind several 26-turn windings.
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Linas
Sun Jan 13 2008, 05:09PM
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does this is beter ? Link2
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Sulaiman
Sun Jan 13 2008, 06:03PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I have no idea,

why don't you look up the specifications for the ferrite material and do the math (as above)
then you'll know.
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