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buzzer
Fri Dec 28 2007, 03:52PM Print
buzzer Registered Member #680 Joined: Fri May 04 2007, 03:20PM
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Which would be better to trigger the gate of a 600V 2000A SCR, a 9V 1A regulated wall wart, 4 AA alkaline cells in series, or one 9V alkaline battery?

Secondly, would an old tyme mercury wall switch be better than a simple push button switch in avoiding any contact bounce when triggering the gate of the SCR?

I will be using the SCR to discharge a capacitor bank.
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cjk2
Fri Dec 28 2007, 04:45PM
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Depending on the SCR, you probably need between 50ma and 200ma of current to trigger the gate. Do you have a data sheet? one would be very helpful in finding the gate current.
I would vote for the 4 AA's in series just because 9v's don't last very long. I would stay away from a walwart because they only offer say 3kv isolation from mains voltage.
I would not worry about contact bounce because the SCR will latch on anyway, and you will not notice if the contacts bounce.
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buzzer
Fri Dec 28 2007, 11:02PM
buzzer Registered Member #680 Joined: Fri May 04 2007, 03:20PM
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The data sheet says it takes 200ma.to trigger. Thanks for the reply.
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Finn Hammer
Sat Dec 29 2007, 10:35AM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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cjk2 wrote ...

I would not worry about contact bounce because the SCR will latch on anyway, and you will not notice if the contacts bounce.

I would worry, and you should!

With a 200mA gate trigger signal requirement, you have a rather big SCR on your hands.

With incomplete triggering, you will open a channel in the SCR that doesn`t allow current to pass in the whole cross section of the die, a condition referred to as tunnelling. This may cause the SCR to latch. (Permanently! frown )

The right way to avoid this is to create a proper gate trigger signal.

1st. you should debounce the contact, with a schmitt trigger, then use this signal to activate the enable pin of a gate driver chip, like a UCC37xxx type.

You want to dump a, say, 220uF cap into the gate as fast as you can.

Connect a Zener diode across the gate to protect against over voltage, and an inductor to drain leakage charge, so that the big scr gate doesn`t slowly charge up during a standby condition.

There is also a good schematic on Link2 which I have used to good effect, triggering a 3 inch dia. SCR to controll 20kA in a disk shooter.

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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