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Caclulating diod current in CW?

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Thingmaker3
Tue Mar 07 2006, 06:12AM Print
Thingmaker3 Registered Member #124 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:30PM
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I want to build a little bitty CW: 2Kv at .5A load current. I know my caps are good (47% more than 2x input peak E) but I want to insure that my diodes won't burn up.

My Google and book searches have failed. How does one calculate current through the diodes of a CW multiplier? Is it simply load current? Or do the diodes in the earlier stages carry more current than in the later stages?
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Self Defenestrate
Tue Mar 07 2006, 06:27AM
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I'm sure 1n5408's will do fine, .5A load wont bother them much. I beleive the current passed through the diode is mostly load current, and some shared current drawn by the rig itself.
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Dr. Shark
Tue Mar 07 2006, 08:52AM
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Conservation of energy: If you put out 10x times the voltage you put in, you have to put in 10x the current of what you get out, just like with a transformer. Since all the diodes are connected in series, there is no load sharing either. You need to size you diodes for 2n x .5A, where n is the number of stages.

(EDIT: Hope I made it a bit more clear.)
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HV Enthusiast
Tue Mar 07 2006, 01:27PM
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joe doh wrote ...

Conservation of energy: If you put out 10x times the voltage, you have to put in 10x the current, just like with a transformer. Since all the diodes are connected in series, there is no load sharing either. You need to size you diodes for 2n x .5A, where n is the number of stages.

Not quite. You can use the following equation to determine output voltage vs. load current. From this relationship you can determine output voltage and then figure out current through the diodes. As you can see, output voltage is inversely proportional with load current so the more current you have, the less voltage.

Voltage drop under load = I1/ (f*C) * (2 /3*n^3 + n^2/2- n/6)

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Thingmaker3
Sat Mar 18 2006, 07:33PM
Thingmaker3 Registered Member #124 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:30PM
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The more I think about it, the more I see the diodes effectively in parallel. Two groups of them, of course, one for each half cycle.

That would imply individual diode current equals input current divided by number of stages.

Or am I high again? rolleyes
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Sulaiman
Sat Mar 18 2006, 07:53PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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The diode current peak can be relatively high if you drive a CW-Multiplier with a flyback
for average rating the conservation of energy approach seems easiest
but unless you protect the output with a fun-killing resistor
the largest diode currents will be due to pulse discharges
so over-rating for current is a good idea.
(I've killed 1N4004's with a 50 Hz 240 Vac 15-stage multiplier
using cheapo 10 nF disk ceramics)
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