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magnetomotive
Wed Nov 07 2007, 01:37AM Print
magnetomotive Registered Member #267 Joined: Mon Feb 27 2006, 09:44PM
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Google is not being nice to me with this question so here goes:

What is the maximum switching frequency that can be used for a high voltage/high current Silicon Controlled Rectifier (SCR)?

Thanks.
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Shaun
Wed Nov 07 2007, 01:41AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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Pretty low as far as semiconductors go; these things have limited dV/dt. For 60Hz mains (their usual application), they'll be fine.
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magnetomotive
Wed Nov 07 2007, 01:51AM
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Could they switch at 1kHz in an inverter application?
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Electroholic
Wed Nov 07 2007, 02:07AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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depending on the size of the scr you are talking about, but even 150kHz is not impossible.
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magnetomotive
Wed Nov 07 2007, 02:28AM
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If the SCR (or some series/parallel combination of SCRs) had to handle about 2 kV (max) and 3.5 kA (rms), could it switch at 1 kHz?
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Steve Conner
Wed Nov 07 2007, 11:13AM
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It's impossible to say because it depends so much on what kind of SCRs you use, and what turnoff and snubbing circuitry, and how much losses you can tolerate. There is no single, neat answer, which is why Google won't tell you.

But I believe it could be done with (expensive) inverter grade SCRs. GTOs are faster yet. I heard they can compete with IGBTs below 25kHz, but they are even more expensive.

The regular types are only rated for 60Hz service, which doesn't mean that they won't work at 1kHz, it just means nobody knows if they work at 1kHz or not. :P
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magnetomotive
Wed Nov 07 2007, 03:36PM
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Yeah, it seems that their current-carrying capability decreases when the frequency increases. I found a datasheet that showed this.

I read that the turn-off time affects the maximum frequency. You obviously couldn't run a device with a 50 micro-second turn-off time at 20 kHz. I am wondering how close the turn-off time and the switching period can be to each other to get successful switching.
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Steve Conner
Wed Nov 07 2007, 04:06PM
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I guess the turn-off time needs to be "small compared to" the period.
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Marko
Wed Nov 07 2007, 04:32PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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I guess it would really help if you said what do you really need?

If you need an inverter switching 2kV 3.5kA = 7MVA continuous really, that doesn't look like something little to me. suprised

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