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EDY19
Mon Mar 06 2006, 09:14PM Print
EDY19 Registered Member #105 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:54PM
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Im looking for a good PREAMPLIFIER circuit to build with some tubes that I recently aquired, and since I don't have any pairs of power tubes. Anyone have some favorites that they would point me to? I really don't know where to start. I;m figuring on using the 12AX7s, I think. That way i can hear the difference between some mullards and gibson tubes.

I only have theses tubes:
2 Gibson 12AU7
3 Gibson 12AX7
2 Daystrom OA2
4 Mullard 12AX7
1 Mullard 12AT7
1 Sylvania 6C4
1 Sylvania 6AU6A
1 Sylvania 6SL7
1 Sylvania 6SQ7
1 Channel Master 6A05A
TUNG SOL:
6X4
12BH7A
12AT7
6AQ5A
6AT6
6AU8
5CG8
6V6GTA
6SN7 GTB

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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Mon Mar 06 2006, 10:14PM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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Hope this scan is a usable one. Either this or go to Link2

1141683252 135 FT3332 Preamp
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Dr. Shark
Tue Mar 07 2006, 09:02AM
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Just to make sure, are you looking fór guitar amp schematics, or HiFi stuff?
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EDY19
Tue Mar 07 2006, 11:31AM
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Guitar right now, maybe HiFi later.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Tue Mar 07 2006, 08:06PM
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aaaahhhh....well guitar has its own set of problems

1. What type of sound are you looking for?

you have to figure this out first before you can narrow things down because there are too many variants out there.
For me, I have to change my Fender to Hiwatt because that's what David Gilmore uses.
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EDY19
Tue Mar 07 2006, 10:29PM
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I just want a little bit of a reverby sound, but really, I've never owned a tube amp, so I really won't know the difference too much. I don't want a highly distorted sound though, I know that for sure. Maybe a bit of a bluesy tone...
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Wed Mar 08 2006, 12:01AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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AAAhhh...okay...then you're looking for a Vox AC 30ish thing

Check out the link to hoffman amps i posted earlier and check out the amp forum
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Steve Conner
Wed Mar 08 2006, 12:12AM
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They're not problems, they're opportunities wink If you want a reverby sound from a tube amplifier, you'll need a spring reverb tank as well as a driver tube and transformer for it. Many reverb units use a 6V6 for the driver. In my experiments with tube guitar amps, I never bothered fitting a reverb tank, because I like more of a dirty grinding sound and reverb just seems to get in the way of it.

Strictly speaking, using digital reverb is cheating, since it's not made out of tubes tongue but it's a lot more versatile. If you get fed up with reverb you can press a couple of buttons and have chorus or delay or whatever instead. I modified one of my amps to interface with an old Digitech effects unit instead of a reverb tank. I think the Alesis Picoverb is actually cheaper than a reverb tank too...
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Wed Mar 08 2006, 12:19AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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if you don't have the 6V6 you can double up the plates on the 12AX7 into the reverb transformer. This is very common because the 6V6 is seen as 'more valuable' in the power portion of the amp rather then a transformer driver. But both work equally well.
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EDY19
Wed Mar 08 2006, 01:42AM
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I am so new to this stuff- i'd like to learn some theory, too. I have a tube amplifier book that has a bunch of schematics for some marshall, mesa boogy, fender, vox amplifiers, but I don't know where to cut off the signal for the preamplifier.
I guess the optimal amp would use OA2's as the rectifiers, and using the AX7's as the preamplifier, and after thinking twice about it, I think Ill drop the reverb for simplicities sake, since this is my first tube amplifier.
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