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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Sept 28 2007, 04:33PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I have a few of these what I think are solid state relays that I removed from some old switching power supplies.
1190996962 152 FT0 Ssr

First, how do I use these? I input 4-7V dc on the two smaller terminals and the two big ones turn on, right? What is the switching element, scr/triac? Does it remain turned on until next zero crossing?
Can this be used for the "solid state variac"?
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ConKbot of Doom
Fri Sept 28 2007, 05:44PM
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Since it specifies the output to be AC, it could be a triac inside. But it could possibly be two mosfets or two IGBTs in anti-series. In series but facing opposite ways, so Drain would be connected to Drain or Source to Source on mosfets

Easiest way to find out would be to take a 9v battery and a 50 ohm or so resistor across the output leads. Use another voltage source to provite a trigger voltage and then see if it stays on after the trigger is removed.
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ragnar
Fri Sept 28 2007, 11:31PM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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If it's truly a "solid state relay", it's likely the two MOSFET drains are present on those output pins as ConKbot indicated.

Solid-state relays are typically optical/opto-isolated MOSFETs or IGBTs. I don't think they're intended to be driven in anything other than cutoff or saturation, because they're not designed to dissipate power (potted in epoxy).

Grab your ohmmeter out and check out the resistance that appears across the output pins when you apply 5V. If you get a reasonable (milliohms - tens of milliohms) resistance, it wouldn't surprise me if that they might be designed to be driven from 5V logic.

Can't find any actual datasheets for it, but this confirms what it is:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=sf16drz+relay
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Marko
Sat Sept 29 2007, 09:54AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Bi lateral mosfet or IGBT switch is actually very cost-ineffective when compared to triacs for AC control.
Just think how huge would mosfet need to be to maintain 1,5V drop at like 10amps.

Bilateral switches are largely used in those small integrated photo-relays and switch low voltages.

Since relay is 240V AC 16A I'm pretty much confident that it's a triac.
Some guys work with these regularly on our forums and have confirmed that.
For large inductive loads triac is also proffered because it doesn't interrupt current.

I guess you could check that by feeding it with some DC through output; triac will not turn off after turned on.




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Electroholic
Sat Sept 29 2007, 03:13PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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ones with mosfets are usually called DC SSR.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Sept 30 2007, 08:02AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I did a small test and yes, the switching element is a triac
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