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Electrostatic dust kicker?

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Air2air
Tue Sept 18 2007, 03:17AM Print
Air2air Registered Member #1010 Joined: Mon Sept 17 2007, 11:45PM
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What a great forum.

I'm prototyping a hand-held 110V tool. It has a filter screen where the usual dust and debris collects. Is it possible to create a static discharge that would "kick" off the dust particles? Can't use vacuum or any other method.

- Is it possible to cram the neccessary components into a small enough size for a hand-held power tool?
- Any safety issues to be concerned about?

Thanking you in advance!
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Sulaiman
Tue Sept 18 2007, 06:23AM
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I doubt that a static charge could 'kick' dust off
but a secondary grid could maybe attract dust then 'drop' it?
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Air2air
Tue Sept 18 2007, 03:59PM
Air2air Registered Member #1010 Joined: Mon Sept 17 2007, 11:45PM
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Ah thanks Sulaiman. What are your thoughts on the size of the electrical system; how small you could make it, and the best design for this application?

We're talking about a half a teaspoonful of dust, removed every several seconds or so. Could the secondary grid stand off from the primary about, say, half an inch?
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Sulaiman
Tue Sept 18 2007, 04:47PM
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Sorry, beyond my experience level.
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Coyote Wilde
Tue Sept 18 2007, 04:51PM
Coyote Wilde Registered Member #175 Joined: Tue Feb 14 2006, 09:32PM
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That would depend on the mass/composition of the dust, the relative humidity and power available.
Safety isn't that big of an issue-- you'll still need kV for the E-field, but the overall power level probably won't get anywhere lethal; just use common sense.
But if this tool is being sold to Joe Public, I'd expect this part of it to be vetoed by the insurance people.
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Air2air
Tue Sept 18 2007, 05:46PM
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Thanks to both of you.

Coyote, the dust would be your normal sanding dust - it's on a sander. So a power source is always available. If you were me, where would be the next place to get some components for prototyping? You can tell I am a newbie in this area.
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thedatastream
Tue Sept 18 2007, 07:40PM
thedatastream Registered Member #505 Joined: Sun Nov 19 2006, 06:42PM
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My Canon D400 has a piezoelectric element attached to the CCD which is supposed to shake the dust off. Don't know if it works or not but you could prototype and try something similar
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