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Michael M.
Mon Sept 17 2007, 05:04PM Print
Michael M. Registered Member #1009 Joined: Mon Sept 17 2007, 04:22PM
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Hello!

I want to build an ozone generator but therefor I need high voltage. In this plan: ozone generator (I'm not interested in growing marijuana, it's just the only plan I found) it is written that you can use transformers from neon signs. Are the ballasts meant? I always thought, that they just put out a high voltage to start the lamp and then run on usual voltage... Does it work this way or not? Can I use such a ballast for getting constant high voltage?
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Sept 17 2007, 05:14PM
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I think the best and simple ozone generator would be a flyback transformer with a simple driver circuit. Adjust the output electrodes as close as possible without starting an arc, there will be corona between the electrodes which generates a lot of ozone depending on output voltage.
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Electroholic
Mon Sept 17 2007, 06:44PM
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Michael M.
Mon Sept 17 2007, 07:10PM
Michael M. Registered Member #1009 Joined: Mon Sept 17 2007, 04:22PM
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I have already a flyback from a computer monitor (an old one). But I was a bit confused by all these pins and wires. I have made two pictures:

the whole flyback:
IMG 0846

The pins:
IMG 0848


**mod edit - oversized pictures**
There are these 10 small pins and these four bigger ones (red-marked). Where is the input and where the output?

The ozone generator is for my aquarium, so it should produce a lot ozone but shouldn't take much energy.
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Bauerb2
Mon Sept 17 2007, 07:19PM
Bauerb2 Registered Member #973 Joined: Tue Aug 28 2007, 07:32PM
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to find which prong on the bottom is the 'ground', hook up the flyback to a driver and wind 3-10 (roughly) turns around the exposed iron core. when it is on, move the thick red wire with the 'suction cup' near one of the pins on the bottom. you will hear or see arcing / corona to one of the pins (or a few).

if you dont have a driver built for fylback, there are many floating around the internets. be friends with google. there are a few simple and complex ones here:
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be careful
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Shaun
Mon Sept 17 2007, 07:27PM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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If I wanted lots of ozone fast and didnt need portability, I would just use an old NST connected to two pieces of window screen on either side of a piece of plate glass. No ballasting is needed as NST are current-limited. And even if they weren't you'd be fine if you were careful to avoid letting an arc form.

A flyback driver is much more controllable, though. And when you are done there's plenty of other things you can do with it.
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Michael M.
Tue Sept 18 2007, 08:02PM
Michael M. Registered Member #1009 Joined: Mon Sept 17 2007, 04:22PM
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Ok, I understand it this way: I build a driver circuit like this: click here and then connect the two lowest red-marked pins with A and B (Feedback) and the other two red-marked ones with C and D (Primary). Then I connect it to a 24 V DC power source and move the thick red wire (with the round rubber) over the small pins. Where the arc comes this is the ground then. Am I right?

But can I then just use the 24 V DC voltage?
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Bauerb2
Tue Sept 18 2007, 08:41PM
Bauerb2 Registered Member #973 Joined: Tue Aug 28 2007, 07:32PM
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i have never used the 'built in' primary that is in the flyback transformer. i usually just wrap turns of insulated wire around the exposed iron core. i recommend doing that.


1190147611 973 FT31520 Edit

this picture is of my old flyback that shows how i wound the primary windings for a different circuit. underneath the giant forest of electrical tape in the picture is the iron core where you can wrap the said amount onto (read the instructions on aaroncake. com for number of turns).

these things produce a heck of a lot of ozone, which made me sort of sick. haha but that was with high power (something like 300watt) but that circuit you linked should be suitable for what you are planning.


Peace.
Andrew
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