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next high voltage project??? please help me decide

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jameselectric
Fri Aug 31 2007, 05:25AM Print
jameselectric Registered Member #535 Joined: Sun Feb 18 2007, 06:03AM
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well I have been playing with tesla coils for about the last 2 years. I am having alot of reliability issues with my 6 in. coil run by a 4 mot supply. I have decided to give it a rest for a while and try something else. The thing is I don't know what. I have three evil genius books but they are kind of a letdown. In terms of diffulculty and money these are the projects I was thinking about.

magnetic pulser- can run can crusher,rail gun, coin shrinker, wire vaporizer and other stuff. would like to make this but am a bit intimidated!!!

lifter-like the idea but have virtually no good plans to go by.

flyback- tried the 2n3055 circuit not really impressed.

c02 laser- seen one on power labs.

emp cannon- seen one in electronics for the evil genius bu never heard of anyone making one

money in the long run is not that really big of a problem provided it's not over 500 bucks. 100 would be even better. Diffulculty of project is what I am worried about.

Thanks for any suggestions,

James
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Coronafix
Fri Aug 31 2007, 06:25AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Concerning the lifter, Jean Louis Naudin has done a lot of
work on the lifters and shows in simple steps how to make them.
Cheap project too.
Link2
The magnetic pulser would be a good challenge though
if you are intimidated by it.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Aug 31 2007, 07:13AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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jameselectric wrote ...


flyback- tried the 2n3055 circuit not really impressed.
So try other circuits then! smile like the "zvs" or "mazilli" driver or even half-bridge. These circuits can generate some really scary arcs of your flyback.
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Sulaiman
Fri Aug 31 2007, 07:20AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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First, the expensive items;
- High energy discharge capacitor for can crusher, rail gun, coin shrinker, emp cannon.
- vacuum pump for CO2 laser

Next, the dangerous items - High energy discharge capacitor and anything attached to it.
You are sensible to be intimidated, the first mistake could be your last - best left until you have a lot of hv experience,
but then again four x MOT is very scary to me !

So that leaves lifter ans flyback, and since a lifter needs a flyback that's probably the best place to start.
The other three projects would also require a flyback or similar hv source also.
So the question becomes - what type of flyback inverter to build?

So I think that you should start with a nice flyback invertor.

Although the performance of flybacks driven by half-bridges and full-bridges and cvs/royer drivers are impressive
they are not much use for real experimenting - I recommend the classic flyback design.

555 or 494 ic oscillator/controller, mosfet or igbt switching transistor, snubber, flyback transformer.
My first choice would be to use 12Vdc as the power source since 12V batteries and power packs are common.
A reliable high voltage supply is a very useful bit of kit for a hv experimenter.
Build it in a nice box with an on/off switch, power/voltage control knob, output voltmeter etc.
and you will have a piece of equipment that you will use for a long time.
You don't need massive power output - reliability is more useful.

My HV PSU uses a mains transformer and an ignition coil in a nasty wooden box
but every time I switch it on it works!

10 to 50 Watts is easy to achieve with a 12 V supply,
and can be used to power a small Jacob's Ladder,
to charge capacitors for spark gap Tesla coil, capacitor discharge, laser, emp device etc. etc.
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