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MikeT1982
Sat Aug 04 2007, 12:32AM Print
MikeT1982 Registered Member #621 Joined: Sun Apr 01 2007, 12:37AM
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Hi all, 2 questions I was thinking of are -

1. Can you parallel 2 diodes (for example in a rectifying circuit) to double the current handling capability? (assuming that they are identical model and manufacturer, rating, etc.)

2. Can you series diodes to increase voltage capability? (assuming the same...identical ratings, etc.)

Thanks!

Mike



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Myke
Sat Aug 04 2007, 12:56AM
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You can series them to increase your PIV rating but you might want ~50% head room to be safe because of imperfections they will see slightly different voltages. For paralleling them it would just be best to get a higher current diode because of imperfections the diodes will pass different currents so one might pass all (or most of) the current while the other won't.
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Sulaiman
Sat Aug 04 2007, 01:23AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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With two IDENTICAL diodes putting them in series will double the voltage rating
to allow for slight differences in leakage current and (in ac circuits) capacitance in real diodes
some de-rating is common.
For dc circuits you can pretty much simply add the voltage ratings.
(this is due to rapid increase in leakage current as the rated voltage is approached
- avalanche breakdown - don't worry about that for now)


When two ALMOST identical diodes are used in parallel
how well they share the current depends on the actual current!

At low currents real diodes behave quite like 'ideal' diodes
look here Link2

so when one diode is a little hotter than the other it will have a lower voltage and draw more current and get hotter
until one diode carries most of the current.
Here I'm talking about voltage up to 0.6V and current up to 1mA for a typical diode.

However, at higher currents when we refer to diodes as rectifiers
the series resistance of the diodes becomes more important
this is not part of the 'ideal' diode model
it's due to the resistance of the silicon and bonding - not the 'ideal' junction.
So at high currents two similar diodes WILL share the current pretty equally.
In this case the rectifier will have more than 1V across it and an amp or more through it.
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MikeT1982
Sat Aug 04 2007, 01:45AM
MikeT1982 Registered Member #621 Joined: Sun Apr 01 2007, 12:37AM
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Hey guys thanks for the quick replies, I forgot to mention, see I bought four 10kV @1 Amp diodes to rectify my 4kV RMS @ 90mA source.

See I bought these for making a Full Wave Bridge rectifier, so now I have 4 of them. But with my new Full Wave Voltage Doubler design, I only need 2 of them. They are pretty beefy, they look like a black Now and Later candy bar with screw terminals on each end. So I am not sure if I should just use 2 and keep 2 as spares, or series or parallel them to make use of all 4 now.
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Myke
Sat Aug 04 2007, 09:31AM
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You may want to put under oil then for better cooling because it's running pretty close to the rated max current draw. I think mineral oil would be fine (no vegetable or cooking oil) (correct me if I'm wrong about the mineral oil).

EDIT: Oops neutral sorrry about that. sometimes I think that 100mA is 1A but I have to remeber that it's 1000mA that is 1A
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Wolfram
Sat Aug 04 2007, 01:28PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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I don't see how they are running close to their max rated current, as they can handle 1A and he's running them at around 90mA max.
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