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Danielle
Mon Jun 25 2007, 06:59PM Print
Danielle Registered Member #632 Joined: Mon Apr 09 2007, 01:09AM
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I built my own scope with a B&W old mac. It works and the wave forms seen aren't great as they are perfect on a real scope. my question is how do I change the sync and how do I scope higher voltages. It can only go up to 3V. I tried a resistor divider and some transformers, although the transformers worked I can only use them for certain frequency ranges. And about the sync I compared the frequencies that worked on my scope with a real one and they were multiples of the 60Hz so I need to finde a whay to change that. If it is possible with a B&W TV though it may only work with a newer one.

Thanks.

Daniel.
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Zum Beispiel
Mon Jun 25 2007, 07:58PM
Zum Beispiel Registered Member #514 Joined: Sun Feb 11 2007, 12:27AM
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You need a variable frequency sawtooth generator (bipolar - swings +/-) for the horizontal sweep and some sort of amplifier for vertical (Y-amp). Then, to make it useful at all, you also need a triggering system, so it always starts draving the waveform from the same spot.

Do all that and you have a low bandwith scope. Might work up to some 100kHz if you're lucky. Nothing beats a real scope, though building one yourself is a great educational experience.

edit: A resistor divider should be fine... that's what they use on real scopes too.
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cjk2
Tue Jun 26 2007, 05:20AM
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Perhaps a resistive and capacitive divider feed into a high impedance opamp?
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thedatastream
Tue Jun 26 2007, 07:38AM
thedatastream Registered Member #505 Joined: Sun Nov 19 2006, 06:42PM
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This is a good link for the basics Link2
There are a few ideas also from a Google search Link2

IIRC scope tubes have a long neck and small screen to reduce the need for S-correction to improve the displayed linearity.
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uzzors2k
Tue Jun 26 2007, 11:28AM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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You'll need probes for higher voltages. If you're really serious about making a scope you'll have to get a real oscilloscope tube, otherwise you'll only be able to see low frequencies. TV tubes use magnetic deflection which is slow because of all the inductance, while scopes use electrostatic deflection, which is fast. I was going to build a scope once, but I couldn't find a scope tube, and once I got a real scope the project just wasn't interesting anymore. Heres a list of sites I found:

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Sulaiman
Tue Jun 26 2007, 11:39AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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Using a tv/monitor crt to display pretty audio patterns is fun
making a useful oscilloscope is not - because the trigger function is so important.

I suggest you consider the cost of making a 'scope, then check out eBay prices for a decent used 'scope.

The only way I'd make a 'scope now is the microcontroller/pc option due to data capture and analysis options.

A good 'scope is sooo useful it's worth the investment.
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Danielle
Tue Jun 26 2007, 03:34PM
Danielle Registered Member #632 Joined: Mon Apr 09 2007, 01:09AM
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I have decided to get a scope but I am gona work on this for a learning purpose and thanks for all the help im taking it all in mined when making it better.
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