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noobletmonger
Sat Jun 09 2007, 04:01AM Print
noobletmonger Registered Member #683 Joined: Sun May 06 2007, 02:00AM
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I am just getting into electronics and I would like to build exactly the mini boost converter described in this topic (built by WilliamN). I would immensely appreciate it if someone could give me a list of exactly what parts to get (part numbers included) and a clearly labeled, detailed schematic. I have read the entire topic and I don't know exactly what he used and how he put it together. rolleyes It would help me out so much! cheesey

For someone who is just starting out in this field it is very confusing, but I am learning fast. Now that it is summer I can focus more time on improving my knowledge on this subject! smile
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Adrian
Sat Jun 09 2007, 11:25AM
Adrian Registered Member #697 Joined: Thu May 10 2007, 12:28PM
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Sorry I'm not nice enough to do all that.

Site Rules say to do your own research, dont ask for detailed plans or complete schematics... but you know that because you read the rules when you registered. Right?

In that links first post he says where he got the design from, after approx 2 mins of searching google and the coilgun site, heres the link : Link2 then he "added a FET driver IC, some TVS diodes and a higher inductance inductor."

For a list of "parts to get (part numbers included)" well thats what your local electronics store's catalouge or a electronic component supplier website is for.
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Steve Conner
Sat Jun 09 2007, 04:57PM
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Yea, I don't think anyone will be bothered to do your shopping list for you frown
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Part Scavenger
Sun Jun 10 2007, 01:24AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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Dude, NOBODY's going to give you "planz."

But I've got some free time, so I'll help you out a bit.

R1 and R2 will look something like this Link2
You can find them in TVs, VCRs, just about anything. It will say "102" on it. (The first two numbers followed by number of zeros, so 10+ two "0" = 1000 ohms or 1k ohms.

C1, C2, C3, C4... Link2
Have a look at these pics.

In this case C1, C2, can be electrolytic, mylar, monolithic, or ceramic (labeled "disc"). The electrolyic will be named "0.1uF" if you can find one, they don't usually come smaller than 1uF. The other ones will be labeled "104" Most small capacitors like this are labeled in Picofarads or "pF." BTW, in order from smallest to biggest; picoFarad (pF), nanoFarad (nF), microFarad (uF), milliFarad (mF) and Farad. 0.1uF equals 100nF which equals 100000pF. So it is labeled just like the resistors. 1+0+0000+pF.

C4 will be labeled "333"

C3 WILL be an electrolytic, and it will be in the region of 1" diameter by 3" tall. You'll probably have to buy this from goldmine or something. Or you could parallel a few of Link2 These aren't 250V BTW. You can always find two in a computer PSU. This is the bank you are charging, so you can really use just about any value provided it's rated 250V.

I don't really know how to tell you about L1 unless you have an o'scope or LCR meter. You could just wind a few turns (no more than 20) on a toroid core you stole from a computer monitor and see what happens or just buy one.

For the diode search for 1n4007 at goldmine or mouser, there is a regular one and an ultrafast. Look for the ultrafast in the title, you'll need six in parallel

I figure just about any IGBT rated over 600V would work, even a MOSFET. You could try the big transistor from a TV...
But personally, I would just go to Link2 punch in the part # for the IGBT on the pic.

Any 555 and 7812 obtained at RadioShack or Goldmine should work. Just make sure they're not surface mount, cause it'll be a butt to solder.

"TVS" stands for "transient voltage supressor" that might help you find the right one. It's pretty much a zener diode on steroids.

Oh, don't run it without the Capacitor bank. cheesey

Have fun!

Oh, this is an excellent multimeter for a noob! Link2
It is always within 1% of my $200 meter, and pretty forgiving. It runs in striking distance of my telsa coils all the time. And if you pay attention, they drop the price to $20 every so often. About 1x a month it's $30.
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noobletmonger
Sun Jun 10 2007, 04:53AM
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Yeah, I thought I was asking too much! cheesey

Thanks for helping me out though. I just get confused by all of the jargon you guys use. Of course I look it all up, but wikipedia and google can only take you so far. One thing I don't understand is where the negative side of the battery is connected to. I see multiple points (white triangles) in the circuit (correct me if I am mistaken) leading to ground, but that's not true ground is it? BTW, I am looking at the schematic posted here by JIM. Instead of a MOSFET (Q1), I am planning on using a transistor. Also, where should I put the TVS diodes?

I have compiled a parts list that I think looks good. I could probably get a lot of the stuff at my local radioshack, but in the interest of getting a good description I entered them in at http://www.digikey.com. The list is attached.

My neighborhood had a garage sale today and I bought a broken printer/scanner for $1. I promptly took it apart and in doing so I found some nice capacitors, diodes, resistors, and a couple inductors. I also found unholy mixtures of dust and ink that were causing it to be "broken" and two very nice steel rods. I would consider it a good day! smile

Thanks again for your patience and support! smile
]1181451117_683_FT26612_parts_list.txt[/file]
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Part Scavenger
Sun Jun 10 2007, 07:31PM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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The TVS diodes go across the transistor, pointed toward positive so that they don't flow unless there's an overvolt.

I'll agree that ground is a confusing concept. Ground is simply a region in the circuit that is defined as zero volts. In this schematic, ground is the negative terminal of the battery.

What do you mean "instead of a MOSFET?" A Mosfet is a transistor. confused

BTW, 5% is usually just fine for the resistors, especially in this circuit.
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noobletmonger
Mon Jun 11 2007, 06:49PM
noobletmonger Registered Member #683 Joined: Sun May 06 2007, 02:00AM
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Part Scavenger wrote ...
What do you mean "instead of a MOSFET?" A Mosfet is a transistor. confused
Sorry, I meant to say IGBT. angry Would that work (better)? Are there any fundamental differences between the two?
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Wolfram
Mon Jun 11 2007, 09:18PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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You should have at least checked google fist: Link2

You're right on the edge of the rules now.
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