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Inverters connected to the grid

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IamSmooth
Thu May 03 2007, 11:38PM Print
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What would happen if one had an inverter connected to the mains that was out of phase by a few degrees? Would it just transfer power inefficiently? If it is way out of phase would it then short out?
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Steve Ward
Thu May 03 2007, 11:46PM
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Any phase difference will result in current flowing back into the inverter. As you thought, if they were 180 out of phase, you would effectively be trying to short out the line through the inverter, which would likely blow it up. You can probably stand be be a few degrees off, and suffer some reactive current flowing through the inverter. You would have to have some feedback mechanism to ensure the phase lock, though. What the power company says is 60hz, is really just an average 60hz per day, but the actual frequency can wander around a bit. So if your inverter doesnt have this phase locking ability, then it would be just about impossible to get it to work otherwise.
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IamSmooth
Sat May 05 2007, 03:34AM
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Any good books that describe basic design and theory for building inverters? Something that describes tracking the main's phase for injection into the grid?

BTW, when specs describe THD for "true-sinewave" inverters how is the distortion calculated?
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Steve Conner
Sat May 05 2007, 07:34AM
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Can't think of any apart from my thesis which I'll pimp again: Link2 This chapter describes how I designed and built my own grid-intertied inverter, and explains in some detail how I got it to phase lock to the grid.

The distortion is calculated as: (the RMS sum of all harmonics of the line current except the fundamental) divided by (the RMS sum of all harmonics of the line current including the fundamental).

When building my inverter I used a Tektronix digital scope with the Wavestar software which has a function built in to calculate THD. I think I got down to about 5% IIRC.
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