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thermonub
Fri Apr 06 2007, 07:08PM Print
thermonub Registered Member #629 Joined: Fri Apr 06 2007, 05:41PM
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hey, for school we have to make an alternative energy project. I got the idea of putting piezo ceramics on the bottom of my shoes and measuring how much energy I can gain each school day. could somebady tell me what the proper piezo ceramic would be for this project and how I should go about storing the electricty? thanks in advance.
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Michael W.
Fri Apr 06 2007, 10:05PM
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Piezo Electric Ceramics produce high voltages at low currents, like in a Barbecue Lighter. It would probably be quite a process to store the energy and be able to use it.....
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Bjørn
Fri Apr 06 2007, 10:17PM
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The gas ignitor types are designed for high voltage, if you use a sheets of piezoelectric material you can get low voltages at usable currents. Connecting it through a rectifier to a capacitor or rechargable battery should do the trick.

It all depends on how much time, money and skill is available.
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bill beaty
Sat Apr 07 2007, 04:24PM
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thermonub wrote ...

hey, for school we have to make an alternative energy project. I got the idea of putting piezo ceramics on the bottom of my shoes and measuring how much energy I can gain each school day.

You might try hooking a "piezo beeper" brass disk up to a DVM voltmeter. Wrap the piezo element in paper (as insulation) and then bend it with fingers to see how high a voltage you can create.

Here's an ebay seller who has all sorts of fairly thick piezo disks and rings, prices under $20. There might be cheaper sellers if you look around.

stores.ebay.com/PIEZO-LASERS-MEDICAL-AND- MORE Link2

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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Apr 08 2007, 01:20AM
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You can also grow your own piezio's too if you get some Rochelle Salts from your chemistry department.
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thermonub
Sun Apr 08 2007, 05:57PM
thermonub Registered Member #629 Joined: Fri Apr 06 2007, 05:41PM
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thanks for the posts. i think i'm gonna start experimenting along the lines of bill beaty's suggestion.

btw, amasci.com is awsome
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Simon
Sun Apr 08 2007, 10:58PM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

You can also grow your own piezio's too if you get some Rochelle Salts from your chemistry department.

Rochelle salt (NaK tartrate) is simply what you get if you boil bicarb soda and cream of tartar together. Both of these are available at any supermarket.
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DrZoidberg
Mon Apr 09 2007, 09:20AM
DrZoidberg Registered Member #350 Joined: Mon Mar 27 2006, 05:14PM
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I found this iste
Link2

They build shoes using piezoelectric materials and also some using an electromagnetic generator.
The piezoelectric ones produced only 10mW on average.
The electromagnetic shoes on the other hand got 250mW. Unfortunatelly they are also much less practical and uncomfortable to wear.

10mW might already be enough to charge your cell phone if you walk a lot and use the phone very rarely. Otherwise it's not of much use.
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thermonub
Mon Apr 09 2007, 11:32AM
thermonub Registered Member #629 Joined: Fri Apr 06 2007, 05:41PM
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very interesting
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DrZoidberg
Wed Apr 11 2007, 04:58PM
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Of course an easier way to charge your cell phone outdoors is to use a solar cell. You can put it anywhere you want - including on your shoes - and it will easily produce a lot more power then a piezo ceramic. Even when you are not walking.
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