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Voltage double and current values (referrencing quiz 6)

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IamSmooth
Fri Feb 24 2006, 07:23PM Print
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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With regard to quiz 6:

Why does the ripple current average to zero? The diode only allows positive current to pass so shouldn't the ripple always be above zero and hence the ripple average > 0? Or is the ripple above and below zero because the load is connected to both capacitors (which connects both diodes)?

As far as the RMS meter, I did not want to buy one; I wanted to know if you had any good links on the theory behind a RMS meter vs a regular "average" meter. From what I can tell, since reading about them, the RMS meter is simply "mismarked" to read the RMS values. A true RMS meter will measure ohmic heating of a resistive element, allowing it to calculate RMS for any waveform presented to the meter.
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Steve Conner
Fri Feb 24 2006, 07:27PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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According to KCL, the current through the diode is the sum of the ripple current through the capacitor and the load current. The ripple current goes both above and below zero, but when you add in the load current, you can see that the diode current ends up always positive or zero.

I guess another way of saying that, is that the positive half-cycles of the ripple come through the diode, and the negative parts flow to the load.

BTW, I seem to remember you were asking about where to get one of those meters that read RMS. They are called moving iron ammeters and you should be able to get one from eBay or a decent sized electronics dealer like Digikey or Mouser. I don't know how accurate the RMS really is for odd waveforms.
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IamSmooth
Fri Feb 24 2006, 10:21PM
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Steve,

what I am not getting is that is not the current through the diode only one direction and above zero (diodes only pass current one way)?
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Steve Conner
Sun Feb 26 2006, 11:04AM
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Yes, the current through the diode is only in one direction. It's a diode after all, that's what they do. But when I say "ripple current" I mean the current through the capacitor, which is not the same as the current through the diode.

As far as I know, iron vane meters do really respond to the RMS of a waveform. They're not just mismarked like you say.

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