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A question on Rectennas, EM radiation, paint, walls and my new apartment.

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Pete
Thu Mar 15 2007, 10:11PM Print
Pete Registered Member #106 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:39PM
Location: Portland, OR and Istanbul, Turkey
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Well I have been watching a few threads here, some from CM and his Ion collector, plus the Ambient Energy contest we have going, to other threads about rectennas and such. Well in a week or less I am going to be a single man again with a new apartment and lots fo walls to repaint. I had a crafty Idea.

I know it would be possible, but would there be any practical reason to line my walls with very thin wire and then paint over it? I live in the center of a VERY large city, and everyone has wireless this and that, 2 cell phones and what have you. Would the ambient EM energy be anything worth collecting besides lighting a few LEDs? I figure I must have about 40 to 50 square meters of wall to paint. I would be in no hurry. I know I will have plenty of time. Thanks for the help.

Pete
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TheMerovingian
Thu Mar 15 2007, 10:48PM
TheMerovingian Registered Member #14 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:04PM
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This sounds as a faraday cage cheesey people can think you are paranoid living in a faraday cage
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Simon
Thu Mar 15 2007, 11:04PM
Simon Registered Member #32 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 08:58AM
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If you read it, it's meant to be an antenna for picking up ambient RF energy.

I doubt this will be worth anything much, unless you really like blinking lights.
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Alex
Fri Mar 16 2007, 12:35AM
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Not to mention that it'll kill your radio, cordless phone, cell, wifi, etc communications abilities.

A properly tuned antenna might provide a better solution.
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ragnar
Fri Mar 16 2007, 01:00AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Instead of lining the walls, you'd probably find it much more rewarding to wind a nice big L and use an air-dielectric variable capacitor to see if it'll resonate with any incoming radiation... then go with a joule-thief-esque circuit and run a nightlight or something =P

You can hind the L behind a pictureframe. =P
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Pete
Fri Mar 16 2007, 08:38AM
Pete Registered Member #106 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:39PM
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ok! Looks like I got my answer. Not only would it harm my own communication ability, which I didn't think about, but for my effort, I would pull maybe 1 watt. Maybe. IF I get lucky, maybe 2! So it seems the best way to absorb ambient energy is to put a small solar panel in my window. I get sun all day through those. Thanks everyone for the info. I have decided NOT to painstakingly line my walls with small wire. I think I might modify my stationary bike then to generate power.

If anyone is curious as to why I am going to these lengths to make extra electricity, well, I'm bored. I want to see what I can do.

Pete
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ragnar
Sun Mar 18 2007, 10:13PM
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Free, cheap, green thrills -- nothing wrong with that =-D
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