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LTD Stirling Engine

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Dr. Shark
Sun Feb 18 2007, 01:00PM Print
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
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This comes from the Free Energy LED topic, but I think it deserves it's own thread. Basically it's the off-the-shelf "Low Temperature Differential" Stirling engine that runs from the heat of a palm or a cup of coffee, mated to a small generator which is a brushless DC motor run in reverse. Since there is not a lot of Carnot efficiency between 270K and 300K, maybe 10% or so, and I wont move a lot of heat, a few Watts at best, I am hoping for a few mW of electrical output at best. Hopefully sufficient to run an LED off the waste heat of a CRT monitor or a computer though!

Construction goes something like this:

1171803377 75 FT0 Stirling

There is a displacer piston (the white foam) that moves air between a hot and a cold aluminium plate. The energy from the expanding air drives a work piston


1171803456 75 FT0 Stirling2

which is going to sit in the blue cylinder on the far left. This drives the flywheel, which in turn power both the generator and the displacer piston.
I just need to build all the small parts, connecting rods, seals and that stuff now. I was originally hoping to use NIB magnets dunked in Ferrofluid for the moving seals, but since the construction is all aluminium, this would give a lot of eddy current losses. Back to the drawing-board, I guess...
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OZZY
Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:43PM
OZZY Registered Member #511 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 11:36AM
Location: Somerset UK
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I like your stirling engine, I have seen similar ones on TV. With such low power I would think that friction would be your bigest problem. Instead of a piston and piston ring you could use a diaphragm but you will still need some sort of seal on the rod for the displacer.
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ShawnLG
Mon Feb 19 2007, 09:33PM
ShawnLG Registered Member #286 Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 04:52AM
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There are thousands of stirlings on google video.

This one uses solar.
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This one is cute.
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Steve Conner
Mon Feb 19 2007, 10:30PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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These demo LTD Stirlings don't have any seals at all, AFAIK. I know someone who has one, and could find out for you.
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Marko
Mon Feb 19 2007, 11:14PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
Location: Zadar, Croatia
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ShawnLG wrote ...

There are thousands of stirlings on google video.

This one uses solar.
Link2

This one is cute.
Link2


Aww, they are so pretty... I'm in love with them.

And some work pretty much better than I expected, from pretty small sources of heat..

I'm pretty sure those would power maybe several LED's just from hand heat. Even those are pretty much more efficient than thermocouples!
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Dr. Shark
Tue Feb 20 2007, 05:29PM
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
Location: Montana, USA
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Oh so very pretty! I want to build a tiny one too. I don't think they could provide much output power though, especially not when run off the heat of a hand. Usually they are build very carefully with glass-graphite seals for extremely low friction, and very low tolerances.

I think that some of the less sophisticated Stirling engines run without seals, as Ozzy said a diaphragm can also be used. The ones in the videos definitely have moving seals though, and I think that's much more 1337, so it's what I'll have to do smile
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ShawnLG
Wed Feb 21 2007, 01:39AM
ShawnLG Registered Member #286 Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 04:52AM
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"race car" stirling with high RPM.
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