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cjk2
Tue Feb 21 2006, 11:21PM Print
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For this years science fair project, I plan on testing standard batteries, and seeing if they will take a charge (I know this is possible). I plan on constructing at least 3 circuits for use in testing. I will build a circuit to discharge the batteries(1.5v cells), a constant current charger with an lm317 regulator, and a "pulse" charger.

My question is this: to build a pulse charger, could I use something as simple a 555 and a transistor/FET to discharge say a 4700uf cap at 1.5v into the battery? Or is something more complex needed to keep the cells from exploding?
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ragnar
Tue Feb 21 2006, 11:44PM
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I worry about the cells getting hot and exploding...

maybe you'd consider making a charger for "rechargeable alkalines" or some of those other quasi-rechargeable technologies... be careful... use a current limiting resistor on that cap =)
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cjk2
Wed Feb 22 2006, 12:08AM
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Im really not too worried about the batteries exploding, as I'll be using a blast screen sort of thing. I'll also test the batteries in a regular charger where they are sure to explode. I'm just wondering if its possible to use a 555 ot build a simple charger.
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Coyote Wilde
Wed Feb 22 2006, 12:33AM
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What sort of "non-recharchable" batteries are you using?
I'd suggest zinc-carbon, as these apparently offer a smaller chance of going boom, and a good chance of success for charge taking.
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Mike
Wed Feb 22 2006, 01:04AM
Mike Registered Member #58 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40AM
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This has been done by AfrotechMods, he just took some duracell batteries and recharged em, he said one time one "exploded" ( made a little hole in it and leaked out some acid he cleaned up with his finger ) hehe
Link: Link2
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cjk2
Wed Feb 22 2006, 02:41AM
cjk2 Registered Member #51 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:17AM
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Thanks for that link mike. I love that site and totally forgot about that article. I will test alkaline batteries, as well as the cheep (carbon zinc) type.
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Sulaiman
Wed Feb 22 2006, 06:10AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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At moderate charging currents, explosions can be prevented by having a thermal sensor stop the charging, since temperature rise comes before explosion. (usually)
You could use one sensor/cutout for all experiments.

I found 'good' results only if very partial discharge is allowed before recharge.
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Maz
Wed Feb 22 2006, 12:33PM
Maz Registered Member #111 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:04AM
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i dont know why, but sometimes when i have dead batteries, i put them in the sun for a few days. i dont uderstand how, but it seems like i actualy do get more juice out of them.
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Bjørn
Wed Feb 22 2006, 01:29PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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That is a very old trick, I have seen old people bake batteries in the oven to restore some of the capacity.
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Wed Feb 22 2006, 03:02PM
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hehe, a lot of the people I know say to put the batteries in the freezer to get new life out of them confused
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