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Cell phone charging (homemade chargers)

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kimbomba
Sun Oct 12 2014, 03:01AM Print
kimbomba Registered Member #3854 Joined: Fri Apr 29 2011, 03:45AM
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Have anyone seen those homemade portable cell phone chargers that are nothing more than 4 NiMh batteries in series and a switch?, they should give about 5 volts, which is the correct voltage but i am not sure if they are safe to use. Others use a 9V battery and a 5 volt regulator. Do cell phones have internal circuitry to limit the charging current or they rely on the charger to do that? Thanks in advance
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Sulaiman
Sun Oct 12 2014, 07:34AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Wikipedia Link2

So the device plugged into a usb port must control it's current draw.
Which means you can just have 4z Ni-Vd in series as a usb power source
but you should put a fuse in series with the cells to protect the battery in case of short circuits.

I'd prefer 2x Lithium and an ldo regulator because
here in Europe the use of environmentally unfriendly Cadmium has been phased out
it is a voltage-regulated current-limited output
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Ash Small
Sun Oct 12 2014, 02:18PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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You can use a resistor to limit max current, and use series diodes to limit max voltage, due to forward voltage drop of the diodes.

Other, higher tech, solutions are available, though, using current controllers, etc.
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Sigurthr
Mon Oct 13 2014, 02:09AM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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I've done it a few times. I just use paralleled 7805s or appropriate LDO regulators. Sulaiman nailed it; voltage regulated, current limited supply. 5V +-20mV @ 500mA - 4A. Certain devices won't charge with less than 500mA, and some devices want to draw up to 2.1A (usually tablets).
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Patrick
Mon Oct 13 2014, 07:00PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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but if they invlove a battery and a linear regulator like a 7805, any input voltage over the 5 volt output is wasted as heat. (times current)
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Sulaiman
Mon Oct 13 2014, 10:52PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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You can have a buck converter, sepic etc.
but as a simple project an ldo linear regulator is simpler,
and the voltage regulation and current limiting is worth the losses.
(compared to a battery fire !)

The loss of power as volts x amps is a concern ... dispersing the heat from the regulator
but the mA.h will be the same as the battery pack,
and a LiPo pack has more mA.h per volume or weight than NiCd.
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Patrick
Tue Oct 14 2014, 02:52AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yes but LiPo's are sensitive to discharge.
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