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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Sept 29 2006, 03:03PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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well, I need a low-voltage audio amplifier IC that can make nice loud sound with 5-6V in. I tried lm386 and tda2822m (bridge configuration), but none of these has enough output power for me (both have about the same power). The IC should be preferrably cheap (and have little external components, but this is not requied) and work well with 8ohm speaker. I think the bridge configuration is the way to go - is it possible to bridge two lm386's? Any ideas?

J.M.
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Electroholic
Fri Sept 29 2006, 03:12PM
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how about two lm388
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Sept 30 2006, 09:37AM
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I think I found a nice amplifier IC: the tda7052 claims to have an output power of 1.2W with 6v supply voltage iinto 8ohm speaker and requies no external components, except it costs 5 times as much as lm386, it looks promising and I'll give it a try.
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Simon
Sun Oct 01 2006, 01:19AM
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The lm386 is supposed to be 1W. Unless that's not quite enough the 1.2W isn't going to be that much better.

Try this, the lm380. You're supposed to be able to get 5W out of it. It was loud enough for me (until I pushed it too high and it died).
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Sulaiman
Sun Oct 01 2006, 03:40AM
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At low power the speaker sensitivity seems more important than the amplifier power,
e.g. cheap speaker 80 dB SPL 1W 1m, efficient economy speaker 96 dB spl 1W 1m

For a sound level of say 90 dB spl

Cheap speaker 10 Watts
efficient speaker 1/4 Watt

So I'd choose the speaker first.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Oct 01 2006, 10:37AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Simon - the problem here is the available voltage - 4 AA cells and preferrably rechargeable (so thats only 5 volts).

Sulaiman - good point, the speaker I have is from old TV and is the most efficient one I have, but it is not making 90db with 1/4w for sure.
I need the amplifier for portable battery-powered speaker (for my mp3 player) so the speaker should be small -> not very efficient sad
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Marko
Sun Oct 01 2006, 12:08PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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You could use a sall boost converter to boost battery voltage to something more.
You should be able to find some of national's switchers around, or sample them.

They usually require 3 external components + pot if you wish to reuglate the voltage.

Or, you could use more batteries, maybe two 9V's iin series.
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Sulaiman
Sun Oct 01 2006, 12:22PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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With a 5V power supply a 'perfect' single-ended amplifier could give 1.77 Vrms
which is 0.39Wrms into 8 Ohms, 1Wrms into 3 Ohms.
A 'perfect' double-sided amplifier could give 3.54 Vrms
which is 1.56 Wrms into 8 Ohms, 4.17 Wrms into 3 Ohms
REAL amplifiers will not do nerly as well.

Rechargeable AA cell can give up to 5A @ 1V = 5W per battery
So a battery of 4 AA cells could give up to 20W (for a few minutes)
So I'd consider a small invertor and PA ic like TDA2040
(one of my favourites, usually available on eBay)
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