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newtoengineering
Mon Jun 02 2014, 05:04AM Print
newtoengineering Registered Member #40121 Joined: Mon Nov 11 2013, 04:07AM
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I'm making a rail gun and I will be using a capacitor bank made from 15 450v 1000uf radial electrolytic capacitors.

How in the hell do I charge this?

Thanks
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Sulaiman
Mon Jun 02 2014, 06:05AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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First; read the rules that you were supposed to when you joined
Then use the search function above
e.g. capacitor charger
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ZakWolf
Mon Jun 02 2014, 06:05AM
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man hands down i think the best way is with this Link2 its super fast, reliable and if you add a lot of capacitance for the ZVS ( use 4uf) its really efficient. plus the regulator side is nice to stops charging when it reaches a desired voltage and indicates when its done
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teravolt
Mon Jun 02 2014, 07:36PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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its easy just find a 240 vac source like a transformer and rectify it. use a variac to control the voltage into the transformer. add a series resistor in series with your bank and rectifier bridge and by a cheap DMM to monitor
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Alex M
Mon Jun 02 2014, 08:14PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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ZakWolf wrote ...

man hands down i think the best way is with this Link2 its super fast, reliable and if you add a lot of capacitance for the ZVS ( use 4uf) its really efficient. plus the regulator side is nice to stops charging when it reaches a desired voltage and indicates when its done

I agree with Zak. Having built this circuit myself to charge a similar but slightly smaller bank I can definitely recommend it.

If you have trouble with the charging/charged LED's both staying lit then these mods fixed that for me.

1401739911 3943 FT163584 Cfpr Capacitor Chargermod


Alternatively you could use rectified mains with an incandescent light bulb in series with the (preferably) live wire. In 230vac countries this will give you 340vdc, and 170vdc for 120v countries.

If you decide to use rectified mains without an isolation transformer then you would need to be extra careful of any exposed conductors on the gun since they would essentially be live.
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IamSmooth
Tue Jun 03 2014, 11:20PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

First; read the rules that you were supposed to when you joined
Then use the search function above
e.g. capacitor charger

What I think Sulaiman was implying is that if you need to ask how to charge to a piece of equipment that can kill you, you better make sure you know what you are doing. These charges are unforgiving with one mistake.
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Thomas W
Tue Jun 03 2014, 11:34PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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IamSmooth wrote ...

Sulaiman wrote ...

First; read the rules that you were supposed to when you joined
Then use the search function above
e.g. capacitor charger

What I think Sulaiman was implying is that if you need to ask how to charge to a piece of equipment that can kill you, you better make sure you know what you are doing. These charges are unforgiving with one mistake.

I very much agree with this.
If you can't work out how to do it, you really shouldn't play with this kind of thing.
(I would be happy if you told me your precautions)
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IamSmooth
Wed Jun 04 2014, 03:17AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I always have discharge resistors across my high voltage caps.
I keep a voltmeter around so I can check if they are charged.

If I'm designing a high-voltage circuit I sometimes have a resistor-LED combo so I know if it is charged if I don't have a voltmeter across it.
I certainly never touch the terminals. A discharge stick is not a bad idea to ensure the cap is discharged.

I have an old-style video game and it has a large CRT and capacitor. I made a high-voltage discharge stick that I put across it before working on it. I haven't had to work on it in over a decade now, but I remember the giant spark that cracked when I did make contact.

I have not dealt with large cap banks, but if I did I would have them in an enclosure in case they failed and exploded.

I'd like to hear what others do, too.
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