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Is this a voltage tripler?

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kimbomba
Fri Dec 27 2013, 07:35PM Print
kimbomba Registered Member #3854 Joined: Fri Apr 29 2011, 03:45AM
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Hi. I found this board in the trash. I think is from a tv, the flyback is to the right of the image, bur the other component to the left, to which the flyback is connected, is a voltage multiplier? Thanks in advance.
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Proud Mary
Fri Dec 27 2013, 10:08PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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The device in the immediate foreground with the thick red wire connecting it to the LOPT ('flyback') could possibly be a tripler, but is more likely to contain a single filter capacitor and a special high voltage high-megohm bleeder resistor so that lethal voltages can not long remain stored, (a legal requirement in most jurisdictions) and to provide a small load while the picture tube warms up and starts to draw current. The unit may also contain a resistor in series with the output of the LOPT to limit momentary inrush switch-on surge.

Historical: In general, the practice of generating the full EHT voltage in one step from an LOPT 'overwind' ended at the close of the Thermionic Age - certainly no new designs of this type appeared after about 1965.

Thereafter doublers - in black and white TVs - and triplers - in colour TVs and monitors - became the rule rather than the exception until the advent of the 'diode split' EHT technique, where a number of secondaries are linked in series internally by EHT diodes, so the output of the whole unit (the fat red wire) will be unsmoothed raw DC.

The 'diode split' technique became the rule rather than the exception in new TV and monitor designs from the 1980s onwards. Your unit looks like a typical diode-split LOPT.

See what number codes, letters, maker's markers etc you can find on the LOPT, and we have a good chance of finding its data sheet. It's often not easy to distinguish the actual part number from other manufacturing data on the case, so best to make a note of it all just as it appears. In any event, the LOPT EHT output will have been in the neighbourhood of 25 kV, with a pick-off 'focus' output of about 7 kV. Current output at 25 kV will have been of the order of 2mA.

Now use your loaf: if the unknown module in the foreground contains a small capacitor - say 25 pF - in parallel with a bleeder resistor of say 0.5 - 1.5GΩ and these are connected in parallel across the output of the LOPT, then the resistance between the input and output of the module will be close to zero ohms. If there is also a series resistor to limit current inrush - switch-on surge - into the capacitance formed by the picture tube itself, then you can expect a resistance in the kΩ regime between input and output. Nobody's going to design to lose more than a hard-earned 1 kV tops across a series anti-inrush resistor, so at a steady state current of 2 mA, we're looking at 1000/0.002 = 500,000Ω = 500kΩ - as a likely maximum figure. It will very likely be only 10% or less of this figure in order to keep the voltage drop across it to the minimum sacrifice needed to guard against unrepairable inrush-related failure of the diodes in the LOPT split.

If there appears to be no or very little conductance between input and output on the MΩ scale of an ordinary multimeter, then that would suggest it is either a tripler after all, or a part which has failed open circuit.
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kimbomba
Tue Dec 31 2013, 03:40AM
kimbomba Registered Member #3854 Joined: Fri Apr 29 2011, 03:45AM
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Thanks a lot!
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