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Conundrum
Tue Nov 05 2013, 08:12AM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.
About 5 days ago, EEstor released some samples for testing.

Seems that at least part of the mystery is now solved, the capacitance of their samples reversibly increases with applied voltage, in a way similar to the forming process of a double layer ultracapacitor.

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If this is confirmed then they have discovered a completely new way of storing energy, using relatively simple materials like PET, barium titanate and other materials.

Varying capacitance has been seen before, in fact the mechanisms in operation here may be remarkably similar to the process going on in varicap diodes and to a smaller extent in some GaN blue LEDs.
The difference is in the scale, as varicaps typically can't tolerate -V more than 50V.

-A
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twist2b
Tue Nov 05 2013, 08:45PM
twist2b Registered Member #2086 Joined: Tue Apr 21 2009, 02:33AM
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That's interesting.. I've been following Purdue's super capacitors research and it was extremely interesting to see them find which chemical reactions worked best in their models... And they recently switched from creating a highly dense amount of "hairs" to store the charge to like.... leaflets kinda. It works a lot better but they still have a lot of research left to go. I can't wait to see capacitors replace batteries.
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Patrick
Wed Nov 06 2013, 12:00AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Back in 1997 I made a ultra capacitor in high school, using aqueous acid and carbon fish pellets. Got 30 to 80 farads at 1.3 volts, enough to run banks of LEDs for a bit.

The problem is even at 3 to 5 volts and huge farad values your still bellow the energy density of zinc air batteries, and way below lipo...by mass and volume...
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Conundrum
Wed Nov 06 2013, 06:13AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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In this case it looks like low farad values but high voltage.
Would make getting energy out of the system harder but there are ways around this such as pulsed switches.

-A
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