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Help to protect a Signal Gen from HV damage

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GammaRay
Sun Oct 27 2013, 02:04PM Print
GammaRay Registered Member #5323 Joined: Fri Jun 15 2012, 02:14PM
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I have a 1700v sic N-ch Mosfet (C2M10001700D) that I want to use to switch a 1000 volt power source on/off at between 3 hz-100 khz. I'd like to control the Mosfet with my table top function signal generator, but am concerned about destroying my signal gen due to high voltage. Any suggestions how the signal gen can be interfaced to the Mosfet while protecting the signal gen from high voltage damage?
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Proud Mary
Sun Oct 27 2013, 04:01PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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An opto isolator of suitable voltage rating.

A pulse trans former of suitable rating.

Secondary protection provided by spark arrestors, pea neons, TVS diodes etc.

If you are switching an inductive load, very high transients - spikes - could appear. It wouldn't take very long before these spikes figure out how to couple themselves into your signal generator by some route you hadn't expected, so don't make the mistake of relying on one method alone! It may work very well until it stops working, and the funeral directors come knocking to measure up your signal generator for a place in the scrap yard.

Electrons under high tension have a very giving nature: they like to share their charge with anyone or anything they can. They are also famously lazy, so if they can see a quick shortcut to Earth via a TVS diode, they'll usually prefer that to all the bother of wandering around the maze of a PC board inside a signal generator, puncturing any CMOS they come across as they find their way to the ground. cheesey
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radiotech
Sun Oct 27 2013, 06:00PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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If you are using the square wave function to gate the device if follows that the transmission
line from the function generator will be set up to have a very low SWR. Otherwise the
rise time would be lost. These lines work both ways.

If the connecting lead is properly screened, you could put your generator inside
a Faraday cage, and, power it from batteries, also inside the cage.


you said " but am concerned about destroying my signal gen due to high voltage.
"

The best answer perhaps is to use someone else's generator. cheesey
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Shrad
Sun Oct 27 2013, 08:47PM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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or just purchase a small DDS generator for under $10 on ebay, which you use with a small PIC or arduino or even parallel control..
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Antonio
Sun Oct 27 2013, 11:21PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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I would not use a signal generator for more than quick tests, but it's improbable that the 1000 V supply can damage the generator. The mosfet would have to fail with a short-circuit from drain to gate (easy) and an open circuit between drain and source (difficult), supposing that the source is grounded and the generator connected between gate and source. If the impedance of the 1000 V source is high, a neon lamp across the output of the generator may be enough protection. Make a solid assembly, and use a simple 555 oscillator.
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Proud Mary
Sun Oct 27 2013, 11:40PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Perhaps my suggestions have been much too conservative - as Antonio's comments seem to suggest - but so long as I have been a member of this forum, there have always been reports of instruments ruined by high voltages appearing in places where they were not expected.
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Antonio
Mon Oct 28 2013, 01:13AM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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Most accidents are caused by lack of care in the assembly and of attention while connecting and disconnecting things. I recently destroyed an oscilloscope probe when a 100 pf capacitor charged at 20 kV, mounted precariously balanced over other parts in a temporary assembly, fell over it.
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