If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
I am trying to measure a voltage of about 2500 at 7 Nanoamps.
I understand that a “normal†voltmeter is useless at 7 Nanoamps. I also believe that a resistive voltage divider would be useless at this low amperage.
I have obtained a Pasco Electrometer. It works great, but maxes out at 100 Volts.
I wanted to use a Capacitive Voltage Divider to bring the voltage down to less than 100 volts, so that I can use my Electrometer to measure the voltage.
The voltage divider setup I am using is on the attached .jpg
For the value of C!, I am using a 10PF (6KV max voltage) ceramic capacitor. For C2 I am using a 1000pf (6KV max voltage) ceramic capacitor.
If I apply 1000 volts to Vin, I should get about 10 volts at Vout.
I have used the divider with 330PF and .033uf polypropylene capacitors, it worked quite well. My problem is that the poly capacitors max out at 2K. I need to go a little higher, probably around 2500 volts.
I ordered some 10f and 1000pf Ceramic capacitors that max out at 6K. I wired them up as shown in the .jpg. For some reason it does not work.
Does anybody know if Ceramic capacitors can be used for this purpose?
Registered Member #56
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
Posts: 2445
Is your source a DC source or an AC source?
If it is DC then the capacitance of your divider is not doing anything, and it is just a resistive voltage divider made up of the leakage of the caps/wiring/electrometer. If it is AC then an electrometer won't be able to measure the voltage because the net charge delivered to the meter will be 0 without an external rectifier.
It looks like the reason was the leakage. the insulation resistance of the ceramic caps was less than 1/2 of the poly caps.
I am sorry that I don't have enough electrical knowledge to explain why the voltage divider works, I can only tell you that it does. If you try it with a battery and use a regular voltmeter you will see that it works well...I just can't explain why.
Registered Member #834
Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
Location: Brazil
Posts: 644
A high-voltage capacitor with low capacitance and low leakage is easy to make. Make a Leyden jar, or just two pieces of metal foil pasted at opposite sides of a plastic sheet. A capacitive divider works, but just for signals that are varying. If you discharge both capacitors and suddenly apply the voltage to be measured (possibly with a large capacitor already charged by it in parallel), a measurement (not very precise) is possible. You can use an electroscope too.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.