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Wireless LEDs brighter while touching ground?

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Chip Fixes
Thu Aug 15 2013, 07:10AM Print
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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So I wired together some LEDs like so Link2
When I bring the LEDs close to my Slayer Exciter they light up like they're supposed to and when I move them like 6 inches away they go out. But if I connect a wire from anywhere on the LEDs to the ground pin on my PSU (shown in schematic) and touch the LEDs they will still light up several feet away from the Slayer Exciter while it is running. Why is this?

I connected the wire to mains ground instead of the power supply and the LEDs wouldn't light up.
They also won't light up several feet away if I take out the wire and won't light up if I have the wire hooked up but don't touch the LEDs.

Thanks in advance for any insight.



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Thomas W
Thu Aug 15 2013, 11:50AM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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id remove the diode, cause the LEDs already act like diodes really.
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Chip Fixes
Fri Aug 16 2013, 03:50AM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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The LEDs light up much farther away with the diodes included than if they are replaced with LEDs.
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BigBad
Fri Aug 16 2013, 08:53PM
BigBad Registered Member #2529 Joined: Thu Dec 10 2009, 02:43AM
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Greater capacitance?

This wireless technique uses capacitive coupling from the transmitter. Your body has greater capacitive coupling to the transmitter than the bare wire.
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Chip Fixes
Sat Aug 17 2013, 05:23PM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Okay, I thought it might be something like that. Is there an easy way to duplicate the effect?
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Ash Small
Sat Aug 17 2013, 06:16PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Chip Fixes wrote ...

Okay, I thought it might be something like that. Is there an easy way to duplicate the effect?

Connect a capacitor across the diodes?
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E.TexasTesla
Sun Aug 18 2013, 02:24AM
E.TexasTesla Registered Member #4362 Joined: Sat Jan 21 2012, 03:44AM
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Your post reminds me of the time I set an old laser pointer on my sstc toroid.
It lit up and was shinning on the wall. It would be cool to buy a bunch of defective led chips
and glue them around the toroid or strike rail.

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BigBad
Sun Aug 18 2013, 05:26PM
BigBad Registered Member #2529 Joined: Thu Dec 10 2009, 02:43AM
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Chip Fixes wrote ...

Okay, I thought it might be something like that. Is there an easy way to duplicate the effect?
Use bigger plates for the transmitter and receiver rather than just wires, also, higher voltages at the transmitter and better Q all round are highly desirable.
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