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Best way to charge a large capacitor bank

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lokeycmos
Fri Jun 14 2013, 11:52PM Print
lokeycmos Registered Member #2553 Joined: Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:36PM
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I have a 1millifarad 2700(3150 Surge) volt cap bank that I need to build a charging supply for. initially I was using full rectified MOT with 5k ohms for current limiting. it would charge to around 2kv within 20 seconds. I want to see the full potential of 2700 volts, but need some ideas. I tried making a half wave voltage doubler, but just sagged from the current draw of the bank and didn't charge at all. as far as parts I came up with, 5kv 35mA NST, several MOTs and a bridge rectifier made from oven diodes. 5k high power resistor. I also have a variac.


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Thomas W
Sat Jun 15 2013, 12:01AM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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use:
Variac->NST->Rectifier->Capacitors
use a voltige divider or somthing to keep an eye on capacitor voltage.

Be Careful!
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lokeycmos
Sat Jun 15 2013, 12:32AM
lokeycmos Registered Member #2553 Joined: Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:36PM
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ill give it a try, but im expecting some long charge times with a 30mA source.
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Thomas W
Sat Jun 15 2013, 12:48AM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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i think it will take about 1 minute
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teravolt
Sat Jun 15 2013, 02:23AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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take a variac and phase two mots so you have 4200 vac and make a HV bridge rectifier out of 3amp diodes like a 1n5408. you will need about 6 per a section of the bridge. add a series resistor and fire up. you could add a resistive divider and a dvm to set the voltage. it should make 2900v. Respect it or you could die, so please add a crowbar or shorting stick
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Mads Barnkob
Sat Jun 15 2013, 06:36AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Hey lockey, I used some step down transformers, one normal and one in reverse to get the voltage needed, see here: Link2
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lokeycmos
Sat Jun 15 2013, 07:58PM
lokeycmos Registered Member #2553 Joined: Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:36PM
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__=|(:3)-|--{__ wrote ...

use:
Variac->NST->Rectifier->Capacitors
use a voltige divider or somthing to keep an eye on capacitor voltage.

Be Careful!
I tried the NST and bridge rectifier, it took 4 minutes to charge to 2kv and pretty much stopped there. ill try two mots in series
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lokeycmos
Sat Jun 15 2013, 09:20PM
lokeycmos Registered Member #2553 Joined: Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:36PM
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I took two MOTs with primaries in parallel and secondaries in series into a bridge rectifier. it keeps popping breakers in my garage with obsolete wiring. ill have to find a ballast and try again when I have more time.
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teravolt
Mon Jun 17 2013, 07:31PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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hi lokeycmos how did you make the series connection? did you put the inputs 180 deg out of phase witch is the correct way or did you connect the frame and output. Add some series resistance at the bridge output to limit the current. Check for shorts.
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lokeycmos
Tue Jun 18 2013, 02:10AM
lokeycmos Registered Member #2553 Joined: Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:36PM
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i figured out the problem. yes the mots are in phase with each other. 3 of the 4 HV diodes in my bridge rectifier blew shorted. ill try again when I have some more.
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