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Detecting if Frequency is over x Khz

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Thomas W
Sat Jun 08 2013, 12:54PM Print
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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hey,
in collage they are currently teaching us high/low pass filters.
to help my learning ive been taking each lesson after collage and using what ive learnt to
make or design somthing of use, for this one, i decided i wanted to design somthing that would
tell me if the output is over ~10Khz, i cannot test it as of now because i havent got a sine wave generator
that works or a oscilliscope that works, but do you think this circuit would work?

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ScotchTapeLord
Sat Jun 08 2013, 01:59PM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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I don't think that would work too well. If you replaced the 3k and 97k resistors with a potentiometer and put a diode on the output of ic1b (to form a holding circuit for when the biased input signal inevitably dips below 0, and by extension, your inverting input reference) then you might get some kind of results, but it will respond not only to a higher frequency but also to a higher amplitude signal.

I would recommend a phase-frequency detector to determine whether a frequency is higher or lower than a reference signal. The easiest way to get one is to use the one built into cd4046.

My suggestion, though, isn't relevant to your class material so I won't go into detail about using a 4046 for this application unless it is requested.
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Sulaiman
Sat Jun 08 2013, 05:08PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I would use a re-triggerable monostable with a 100 us time constant,
when there are no output pulses the frequency is above 10 kHz

If using op-amps I would use an active filter,
with 2 op-amps you can have 4th or 5th order filter.
TI have simple software Link2
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Thomas W
Sat Jun 08 2013, 05:38PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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Yes, really this is just me trying to make use of the stuff we are taught in class so i remember it better ^^
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Jun 09 2013, 06:28PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I think a better solution would be a wave shaper (convert to square, possibly a Schmitt trigger) and then a "pulse shortener", the advantage of this would be that it could take various input waveforms, not just sine wave.
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