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Fading 32 Led's with 555 timer's

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Chip Fixes
Fri Nov 30 2012, 12:31AM Print
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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I was wondering if it would be possible to fade 32 Led's using one or two 555 timers? The circuits I have come across are not able to fade more than five
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BigBad
Fri Nov 30 2012, 03:12AM
BigBad Registered Member #2529 Joined: Thu Dec 10 2009, 02:43AM
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Try an arduino instead
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Mattski
Fri Nov 30 2012, 03:43AM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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I'm guessing that you're doing something like putting the LEDs on the timing capacitor in a 555 circuit which has a sawtooth-like waveform, and the LEDs are drawing too much current past 5 LEDs or so and the capacitor isn't charging. Decreasing the charging resistor value should allow some increase in the # of LEDs, but a more extendable method would be to just buffer that voltage with an opamp voltage follower or another type of buffer circuit so that the LEDs don't affect the 555.
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Patrick
Fri Nov 30 2012, 05:21AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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i presume hes not power the leds throught 555? he should be using a pass transistor for power, the 555 for signal, thus the number of LEDs wont matter, so long as you keep up with the power transistors.
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Chip Fixes
Fri Nov 30 2012, 05:35AM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Ah yes, I was using a transistor but I couldn't get the LEDs to fade. They either constantly stay on or won't turn on at all. I think it's just a silly error on my part, I was going to troubleshoot it tomorrow.
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Patrick
Fri Nov 30 2012, 06:12AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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ive blundered the 2 R's a C in the RC timing circuits attacthed to the 555, your power transistor is running off pin3 right?
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Carbon_Rod
Fri Nov 30 2012, 06:14AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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The PCA9685 i2c chips can set 16 synched or staggered PWM outputs for LEDs.

In theory, the address space for these supports 64 chips.


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Sulaiman
Fri Nov 30 2012, 08:10AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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My answer to the original question is, Yes.
The fading I assume is achieved by pwm using the 555 in astable mode.
e.g. LM555 @ 15Vdc supply, load (leds+resistors) between +Vcc and pin3
Datasheet Values ..ON output = 12.5V @ 200 mA = 2.5W
e.g. red led @ 20mA = 1v8 approx. ... 4 series led = 7v2
... resistor=(12v5-7v2)/20mA = 5.3/0.02 = 265 R .. use 270 R
8 parallel sets of (four series led with resistor) = 8x 20mA = 160 mA = well within spec.
and 4 x 8 = 32 leds. (plus 8 resistors)

on the other hand, 32x 3W led would need a power transistor between load and 555 pin3
if using a power transistor, other drive options are available
e.g. switched constant-current (or voltage) from the higher un-regulated dc supply.
...etc.
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Chip Fixes
Fri Nov 30 2012, 04:38PM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Yeah I'm trying to go the transistor route because I want to use a 5v usb port as my source voltage. The LEDs are rated for 2v at 10ma so I have 16 groups of 2 LEDs (The LEDs in each group are in series). With each group in series with a 33ohm resistor that is connected to the emitter pin of the transistor. Pin 3 from the 555 timer is wired to the base pin of the transistor through a 33k resistor and of course the collector pin of the transistor is connected to my source voltage. But for some reason my transistor is only oscillating between 1 and 2.5v. There's a 2.5v drop through the transistor and I don't know why.
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Shrad
Fri Nov 30 2012, 05:44PM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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LT8000 from linear might be a nice bet for this
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