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Andre
Fri Oct 26 2012, 03:10PM Print
Andre Registered Member #6921 Joined: Wed Sept 26 2012, 07:47PM
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How do you limit the current on a HV transformer? I will like to be able to adjust the secodary current with out worry what the input current would be. any ideas?
I found some articles that the response was "well limit the current on the primary" but how do I limit the current on the primary?
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zrg
Fri Oct 26 2012, 03:30PM
zrg Registered Member #4762 Joined: Sun May 06 2012, 05:59PM
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Ballasting inductance.
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Dr. Brownout
Fri Oct 26 2012, 04:15PM
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Yep ballasting is your best bet. Figure what current you want to limit too, then XL=(2pi*f*L)

So lets say you are inputting 120 Volts, and you want to limit to 5 amps.

Using ohms law E/I:
XL =120/5 = 24 ohms
So now you know what resistance you need

Now rearrange the XL equation to get the inductance

XL / 2pi*f = 24 / 377 (for 60Hz)= .0637
L=64mH

You need to make sure you size the wire to handle the what ever current your trying to limit.
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Andre
Fri Oct 26 2012, 04:41PM
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I notice they mostly work at 60hz, how about if I'm building a transformer that is 40khz, anyone came across any transformer current limit circuit.
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Dr. Brownout
Fri Oct 26 2012, 04:46PM
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It works for any frequency you just need to substitute the frequency your using. I picked 60hz as an example. Just use the same method I used just substitute the frequency to what ever frequency your using.
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Dr. Brownout
Fri Oct 26 2012, 04:55PM
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You could always try resistive ballasting.
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Andre
Fri Oct 26 2012, 05:15PM
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so with that I can adjust the current to what ever I need?
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cbfull
Fri Oct 26 2012, 05:43PM
cbfull Registered Member #187 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:54PM
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If you have a variac, you can rewire it so that the windings are added in series with line voltage, and then you can plug your item right into the socket on the front of the variac. I run all of my neon xformers that way. The trick is getting the wiring right. You can either wire it so that turning the knob up increases the output current (decreasing number of windings in series) or decreases your output current (increasing number of windings).

I hope this makes sense, it's really nice to have a variac around that's wired this way.
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Dr. Brownout
Fri Oct 26 2012, 06:03PM
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That method does work but for larger currents it be hard on the variac. I did some repair work on a coil that was run with a pole pig and it was connected that way but the brushes on the current limiting variac were all burnt and destroyed. I am sure it had lot of hours on it as it was in a tourist attraction and who knows if the public was able to turn the variacs I didnt see it setup it was in the maintenance shop when I fixed it, the brushes if I remember correctly somewhere around $250 for a set of them. But it worked after I replaced them.

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Dr. Brownout
Fri Oct 26 2012, 06:13PM
Dr. Brownout Registered Member #2405 Joined: Fri Oct 02 2009, 12:59AM
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Andre wrote ...

so with that I can adjust the current to what ever I need?

Andre,

Take a look at this site:
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