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Pulsesating field coil on generator

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Andy
Fri Sept 14 2012, 01:57AM Print
Andy Registered Member #4266 Joined: Fri Dec 16 2011, 03:15AM
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Hi, I was wondering if you have a dc square wave for the field coils on a generator , would the gen produce more power if the field coil was spinning, or would it be like a transformer and just transfer power.
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Steve Conner
Fri Sept 14 2012, 07:48AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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A bit of both I guess: Changes in the field current would induce a voltage in the output by transformer action, and when the generator is spinning, the field current modulates the output. Bear in mind that generator field coils have very high inductance, so it's hard to make the field current change quickly.
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klugesmith
Fri Sept 14 2012, 03:13PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Lots of answers to that one.
Let's limit the discussion to rotating-field alternators, as used in cars, portable generators, and power plants.

1. There will be no output power without a load, of course.

2. As in DC-field operation, you can get LOTS more power out if the field is spinning. The extra power comes from the work to turn the rotor. Ordinarily, field winding needs power only because of its I2R loss.

3. How is a DC square wave different from a regular square wave? smile
Let's assume you mean periodically reversing DC.
With stationary rotor, there are some positions where there is NO output voltage and others where the induced output voltage is same or opposite polarity as your field voltage waveform.
As Steve said, turning the rotor will give you a mixture -- a product waveform.
Some people would find it interesting to model the system.
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Andy
Fri Sept 14 2012, 07:01PM
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Thanks for the info, I'm going to see if I can pick up a motor and do some testing.

Done some testing, with reciftered ac I get about 1volt on the motor outputs, but spinning makes the voltages drop. Is that bemf?
Can't measure the current as the multimeter amp reading are stuff, but should amps start being produced?
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