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100 watt 2 channel tube amplifier

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Chip Fixes
Fri Jun 15 2012, 09:40PM Print
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Ah my friend wants me to build him a tube amplifier for his guitar and I thought it would be a cool project so I agreed. Plus, he's funding the whole thing and giving me a bit of money at the end for my time. However, I have never built a tube amplifier before and I don't know where to start. If someone could point me in the right direction that would be nice. He's not picky either: 2 channel amp with 100 watts rms per channel with only a gain and master volume control. He just wants to see the part list, schematic and rough estimate of the cost before we start building.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri Jun 15 2012, 11:25PM
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DON'T

It will be too loud and too clean to be of practical use.

He's going to want distortion, as guitarists do.

I recommend that you don't bite off more then you can chew. Start with a Fender Champ or Class A single ended amp.

Up top: Fender Twin clone, 100W one channel, too loud and clean, you go DEAF before it distorts.

Next to the Fender Twin clone, Fender Champ clone, Class A, great distortion, loaded into a Celestion Green Back it would really sing.

Below: Carvin X100B, too loud, 100W one channel, doesn't give good classic distortion as well as the Champ

Below that: 2x Celestion V30's, loud as sin!

For one amp:

Single plate transformer: $ 150
OPT: $ 140
Tubes: $150
Chassis: $50
Sockets: $30
Knobs/Pots: $45
Orange drops: $30


001f
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radiotech
Sat Jun 16 2012, 03:29AM
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Are you being paid to draw the schematic, specify the parts to be used, and
provide the performance specifications ?

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Chip Fixes
Sat Jun 16 2012, 06:09AM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Thank you Hazmat!!!

Radiotech: Uh not really? He said he'd give me money at the end. He's a friend and honestly I wouldn't care if he paid me or not because it seems like a fun project and I have the time. We were thinking about just pulling a schem off the internet... I just want to know how everything works together.

Also, he wants a tone dial as well and if possible, a switch to go from clean to overdrive
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radiotech
Sat Jun 16 2012, 05:05PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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If you are going that route with a working design, then first find out if the output transformers
and the power transformers are available. If your power supply is going to vacuum tube, it would
be best to build one power amplifier block, with its own power supply.

The other thing about 100 watts RMS, it is customary to rate it with a given distortion
over a given frequency response, i.e. 1 %, 50 - 15000 Hz. +/- 3 db.

As for a project, without the mechanical layout, and wiring specifics, the project
might go sideways very quickly, for any one of a number of reasons beaten down in
designs over the past 70 years.

A more practical suggestion for your friend, is to locate an old amplifier on Ebay or
other trading sites in restoration audio, get your friend to buy it and then task you to
do a complete restoration. That would mean tearing it down to sockets and major parts,
and replacing every capacitor, resistor and potentiometer with new parts. This way you
will deal with every aspect of the circuit, and allow you to measure how the original
parts have changed with age.
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Steve Conner
Sat Jun 16 2012, 05:41PM
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Or buy a kit from Weber or TAD.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Jun 17 2012, 01:30AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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I second the motion to buy a kit.

Buying a vintage amp doesn't make much sense. They're obviously trying to "cut the corners" off of paying botique prices by doing it from scratch.

Forgot to mention, a good speaker can cost anywhere from $99 - $400 each.

The speaker makes a big difference. I haven't had a chance to try out the greenbacks yet, but when I get the $170 to buy one, I'm going to mate it to my Champ.

Good luck with your build.
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