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Thomas W
Fri May 18 2012, 09:19PM Print
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i have access to a ~5Kw variac, its very old and the enamel on the copper is not on there anymore, would it be a good idea to strip it all off and wind a 5Kw Isolation transformer on it?
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 11:10AM
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so, would it be worth it to do this?
or would it be better to get a proffessionally made one?
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Steve Conner
Mon May 21 2012, 01:21PM
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No, it's not worth it. tongue Just look on ebay for a second-hand one in working order. You should be able to get it cheap if you're prepared to collect it.

Having said that, the wire in a variac is supposed to have a strip of missing enamel. How else would the brushes make contact?
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cbfull
Mon May 21 2012, 01:51PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

Having said that, the wire in a variac is supposed to have a strip of missing enamel. How else would the brushes make contact?
My thoughts exactly. If you are referring to the upper surface where the carbon contact slides across the windings, the enamal is not missing... it was purposely removed.

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Proud Mary
Mon May 21 2012, 02:40PM
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Physical examination

Inspect mains fuse if any.

Inspect state of carbon rotor brush.

Inspect windings and their terminations and leads very carefully for signs of charring, insulation failure etc (other than on rotor track!)

Sniff windings - the odour of burnt insulation can still be detected years after the event if you're not a cigarette smoker.

Test for any wonkiness or catching when you turn the spindle.

Electrical tests:

Check the resistance across the whole winding for continuity using your ohm meter. A measurement of a few ohms suggests health.

Measure the resistance between the slider and the cold end of the winding. Again this should be a few ohms, and vary as you turn the spindle across its range.

Put your ohm meter on its maximum range and measure the resistance between the winding and the centre spindle and/or case/Earth connection. The resistance should be ultra high - heading towards infinity. It should show as open circuit on an ordinary ohm meter.

If your variable transformer passes all these tests, then it is probably working.

Connect a ballast resistor such as a tungsten filament light bulb or electric fire element in series with the input and give it a try! smile
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 03:54PM
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all the enamel on the sides of the wire is stripped off, i was thinking of winding a isolation transformer on it, ive already got a 7.5Kva variac thats in "decent" condition
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Proud Mary
Mon May 21 2012, 04:00PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

all the enamel on the sides of the wire is stripped off, i was thinking of winding a isolation transformer on it, ive already got a 7.5Kva variac thats in "decent" condition

Probably best to put it in the bin, Tom, rather than waste any further time and money on it.
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 04:07PM
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yeh, i havent brought it yet, but im really after a nice large isolation transformer (if anyone has a large one going cheap in the south UK pm me, same goes for PTs and Pole pigs)
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Proud Mary
Mon May 21 2012, 04:50PM
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A good 230/230V industrial isolation transformation is an excellent idea.

I have all the sockets on my bench running from such a transformer, so that all my experiments and and all my equipment, is isolated from the mains.

They aren't so common as the standard 230/110V types to be found on most building sites in Britain, but if you are patient one will come up on ebay.

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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 04:55PM
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hmm, how inefficient would it be to run 2 of them back to back?
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