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SOIC on a breadboard??? Yes!!!

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rev
Mon Jul 31 2006, 02:08AM Print
rev Registered Member #112 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 01:19AM
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some of us know that some great chips are only in small packages now. i was tired of canceling my plan for a circuit due to that fact.

for those with no meens by wich to produce etched boards or the funds for it, this may become very usefull to you.

a full write up wil be finished tomorow with pics and directions to reproduce my method.

i would like to hear about your solutions if you have any.

but for now here is a pic of a potted version.




1154311696 112 FT0 Soicdip
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Mon Jul 31 2006, 03:46AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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Looks like you managed to skip the board all together?

I really hate to mention that I would have sold you 10 sioc->dip adapters etched in a piece of pcb for like $10... Just need artwork wink

I never tried putting the pins directly to the chip, I alwys have put them on a little gizmo designed for wirewrap board that looks sorta like a dip chip, but instead of a chip in the middle it just has solder hoops (so you could solder resistors in it to plug into a wirewrap board) with 30awg wire to the pins. I tried to put a little a/d that had pins about the size of a piece of 32awg wire (probably .01" extra) and got almost down with all 20 pins when I broke off the vdd pin dead I never tried anything after that wink
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Self Defenestrate
Mon Jul 31 2006, 04:46AM
Self Defenestrate Registered Member #87 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 01:36PM
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Check out Link2 if you need breakout boards, they have every imaginable style for a buck each. Of course, dosen't look as cool as the potted masterpeice shown, awaiting the write-up!
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Bored Chemist
Mon Jul 31 2006, 06:05AM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Somewhere there's a bloke sighing and saying "the ****** work I put into making those smaller!"
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Steve Conner
Mon Jul 31 2006, 09:48AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I curse that bloke daily! I wish he would make Duplo sized chips for our R&D department :(

1154339336 30 FT13786 Prototype
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Bjørn
Mon Jul 31 2006, 10:24AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Remember that some chips will not work when mounted like that. Always read the datasheet, in some cases the allowable lead lengths are so limited that they can't even reach the breadboard.
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Jul 31 2006, 11:46AM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Digikey sells a lot of nice SMT type breadboards for almost any SMT chip imagineable. Just go to digikey and search for "Surfboards."
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Marko
Mon Jul 31 2006, 11:50AM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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haha.''duplo chips'' cheesey

Did that board actually work steve? confused


For IC's that work on very high frequencies breadboard in't good at all, no matter of leg length-
high capacitance between pins is much more troubling there.
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Steve Conner
Mon Jul 31 2006, 12:27PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Ya, it worked. It's an AD9850 DDS chip clocked at 125MHz, so lead lengths etc. were critical. I used double sided board and used the underside as +5v and the top as ground, and drilled holes where I needed 5v. I also soldered a tiny 0603 size SMD bypass cap between each of the DDS chip's power pins and the groundplane.

The long wires you see are for the (relatively slow) control signals coming from a PIC on another board, except for two: one carrying the 125MHz clock and another for the 0-40MHz output. I made sure these were pressed down against the groundplane and they performed fine.

I also built a PRBS generator clocked at 40MHz out of ECL logic using the same technique.
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Marko
Mon Jul 31 2006, 12:41PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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I always wanted to make good PCB's using photo-treatment (or anyway it's called) but never actually done it right, not even close for good SMD-ing so it was pointless.
I rather use prefboards for almost anything now.

One improvment I can think for rev's adapter could be using a 'gold plated' socket under the board, possibly having chip soldered to holes on top.

Pins would look much nicer that way.. :)
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