Welcome
Username or Email:

Password:


Missing Code




[ ]
[ ]
Online
  • Guests: 60
  • Members: 0
  • Newest Member: omjtest
  • Most ever online: 396
    Guests: 396, Members: 0 on 12 Jan : 12:51
Members Birthdays:
All today's birthdays', congrats!
Capper (60)
cereus (73)
Mcanderson (43)


Next birthdays
11/06 dan (37)
11/06 rchydro (64)
11/06 CapRack (30)
Contact
If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.


Special Thanks To:
  • Aaron Holmes
  • Aaron Wheeler
  • Adam Horden
  • Alan Scrimgeour
  • Andre
  • Andrew Haynes
  • Anonymous000
  • asabase
  • Austin Weil
  • barney
  • Barry
  • Bert Hickman
  • Bill Kukowski
  • Blitzorn
  • Brandon Paradelas
  • Bruce Bowling
  • BubeeMike
  • Byong Park
  • Cesiumsponge
  • Chris F.
  • Chris Hooper
  • Corey Worthington
  • Derek Woodroffe
  • Dalus
  • Dan Strother
  • Daniel Davis
  • Daniel Uhrenholt
  • datasheetarchive
  • Dave Billington
  • Dave Marshall
  • David F.
  • Dennis Rogers
  • drelectrix
  • Dr. John Gudenas
  • Dr. Spark
  • E.TexasTesla
  • eastvoltresearch
  • Eirik Taylor
  • Erik Dyakov
  • Erlend^SE
  • Finn Hammer
  • Firebug24k
  • GalliumMan
  • Gary Peterson
  • George Slade
  • GhostNull
  • Gordon Mcknight
  • Graham Armitage
  • Grant
  • GreySoul
  • Henry H
  • IamSmooth
  • In memory of Leo Powning
  • Jacob Cash
  • James Howells
  • James Pawson
  • Jeff Greenfield
  • Jeff Thomas
  • Jesse Frost
  • Jim Mitchell
  • jlr134
  • Joe Mastroianni
  • John Forcina
  • John Oberg
  • John Willcutt
  • Jon Newcomb
  • klugesmith
  • Leslie Wright
  • Lutz Hoffman
  • Mads Barnkob
  • Martin King
  • Mats Karlsson
  • Matt Gibson
  • Matthew Guidry
  • mbd
  • Michael D'Angelo
  • Mikkel
  • mileswaldron
  • mister_rf
  • Neil Foster
  • Nick de Smith
  • Nick Soroka
  • nicklenorp
  • Nik
  • Norman Stanley
  • Patrick Coleman
  • Paul Brodie
  • Paul Jordan
  • Paul Montgomery
  • Ped
  • Peter Krogen
  • Peter Terren
  • PhilGood
  • Richard Feldman
  • Robert Bush
  • Royce Bailey
  • Scott Fusare
  • Scott Newman
  • smiffy
  • Stella
  • Steven Busic
  • Steve Conner
  • Steve Jones
  • Steve Ward
  • Sulaiman
  • Thomas Coyle
  • Thomas A. Wallace
  • Thomas W
  • Timo
  • Torch
  • Ulf Jonsson
  • vasil
  • Vaxian
  • vladi mazzilli
  • wastehl
  • Weston
  • William Kim
  • William N.
  • William Stehl
  • Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Forums
4hv.org :: Forums :: General Science and Electronics
« Previous topic | Next topic »   

Safe to use a MAX1555 to charge 6AH battery?

Move Thread LAN_403
Conundrum
Tue May 01 2012, 06:59PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
Posts: 4061
Hi..
seems that this unfortunate MP3 player has a fried charge IC but works fine if you manually charge the battery from say a defunct Nokia etc.

I have two MAX1555's here which seem to work, and the PWR input is 280mA max regulated.

Can I get away with this? It seems a bit kludgy but should work.
Estimated time to full charge would be about 20 hours over USB.

I intend to add an output fuse to make sure, in case of wrong cable etc.

Thanks!
-A
Back to top
Mattski
Wed May 02 2012, 12:39AM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
Location: University of California
Posts: 527
It looks like the Max1555 wants to charge a lithium ion battery to a 4.2V cell voltage. Is that the chemistry and cell voltage of the battery you're trying to charge?

Generally you can always charge a battery at a lower rate without a problem, in fact slower charge rates can result in longer cell lifetimes, And 280mA on a 6AH battery will be a nice and slow C/20 charge rate. Most of the problems with battery charging come from charging too fast or applying too much voltage to the cells.
Back to top
Tetris
Wed May 02 2012, 03:40PM
Tetris Registered Member #4016 Joined: Thu Jul 21 2011, 01:52AM
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 660
Full charge in20 hours? So you go a day and have half a day of music? also you said it works manually charging it. can't you make a v-reg circuit that manually charges the battery?
Back to top
Bjørn
Wed May 02 2012, 04:24PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
Location: Hyperborea
Posts: 2058
The problem with lithium batteries is that they can burst into flames if not charged correctly so only people that really know what they are doing should attempt to make their own chargers.

MAX1555 is a nice little chip and I use it on most of my batteries up ot 17 Ah. It is important to get the capacitors close enough to the chip like described in the datasheet.
Back to top
Conundrum
Wed May 02 2012, 08:37PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
Posts: 4061
It has one capacitor already on the PCB itself, as part of the existing switch mode supply.

I'll add them just to be safe then..
Best to use disc rather than SMD ceramics here good to 50V?

Also added the appropriate LED so I can see the charge status, it turns off when "full"

It also seems to have a failsafe on the battery itself, consisting of a little PCB on each cell and evidently a LVCO circuit too.
Batteries are labelled REC4351122P, 3Ah.

Shame Maxim don't make a 5 pin LiFePO4 charger, that would be very useful indeed smile

EDIT:- They do, its just not SOT23.
EDIT 2- Need to move charger IC and add reverse protection diode as it is attempting to power itself from the USB output pin when battery voltage rises above 3.7V which resulted in an epic fail and squealing SMPS noises frown
Luckily I noticed the problem before it could do any damage..
Back to top

Moderator(s): Chris Russell, Noelle, Alex, Tesladownunder, Dave Marshall, Dave Billington, Bjørn, Steve Conner, Wolfram, Kizmo, Mads Barnkob

Go to:

Powered by e107 Forum System
 
Legal Information
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.