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Powering an Argon Ion Laser

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Turkey9
Sun Mar 04 2012, 03:21AM Print
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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Hello all.

I recently bought an argon ion laser at a university lab equipment auction. It looks to be complete except for the cooling fan but that's not the problem. The unit didn't come with a power supply. It does have the started circuitry it looks like (the thing that makes the high voltage pulse). The unit (and tube) is a spectra-physics product. The tube model is 00093-01 and I can't seem to find info on it anywhere. What kind of voltages will I need? Common filament voltage? Will too low of a tube voltage damage it? (Could I just use a variac to try to get it to start at different voltages?) It also has a beam splitter on the output that looks to just go to a sensor. Would this be used to measure power of the output? Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
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Pinky's Brain
Sun Mar 04 2012, 04:40AM
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No idea, but you could try asking on this mailing list :
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plazmatron
Sun Mar 04 2012, 02:21PM
plazmatron Registered Member #1134 Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007, 04:39PM
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Turkey9 wrote ...

I recently bought an argon ion laser at a university lab equipment auction. It looks to be complete except for the cooling fan but that's not the problem. The unit didn't come with a power supply. It does have the started circuitry it looks like (the thing that makes the high voltage pulse). The unit (and tube) is a spectra-physics product. The tube model is 00093-01 and I can't seem to find info on it anywhere. What kind of voltages will I need? Common filament voltage? Will too low of a tube voltage damage it? (Could I just use a variac to try to get it to start at different voltages?) It also has a beam splitter on the output that looks to just go to a sensor. Would this be used to measure power of the output? Thanks for any help you guys can provide!

Seems to be either the spectra physics 161/162 series air cooled argon ion laser.

The heater voltage is 3v at 30A (must be AC)

The anode voltage is approximately 110V @ 4.5A to 8.5A

To run mine I used a Microwave oven transformer with the secondary windings removed, and replaced with 3 turns of heavy gauge wire, with a centre tap for the filament.

A linear 110v dc PSU was constructed for the anode voltage.

The Ignition circuit in the head is already pre wired to autostart as I recall, once the anode voltage is present. So All you need to do is trace the heater leads, and the anode lead.

Here is a diagram, that I used:


1330870870 1134 FT135359 Argonpsu
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Turkey9
Sun Mar 04 2012, 10:25PM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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Thanks, I think I'm going to use your setup.

Will the tube pull the 4.5A to 8.5A at 110V or will there need to be current limiting resistors? Is that what that bank of resistors is for? Or in other words, what is the impedance of the tube while running?
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Daedronus
Sun Mar 04 2012, 11:08PM
Daedronus Registered Member #2329 Joined: Tue Sept 01 2009, 08:25AM
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You need to limit/control the current. The voltage is more of a guide line.
You will need a constant current psu.
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plazmatron
Tue Mar 06 2012, 03:35PM
plazmatron Registered Member #1134 Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007, 04:39PM
Location: Bonnie Scotland
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Turkey9 wrote ...

Thanks, I think I'm going to use your setup.

Will the tube pull the 4.5A to 8.5A at 110V or will there need to be current limiting resistors? Is that what that bank of resistors is for? Or in other words, what is the impedance of the tube while running?

The resistors shown, are for 'ballasting' the tube, without hem the tube will draw as much line current as is available, in other words a melting smoking mess.

Note these resistors are physically large, and must be fan cooled!

A switchedmode power supply is the best thing to use for these really. Linear PSU's like the one shown, will do the job, but they have horrible regulation, and are extremely inefficient. However it is a quick and dirty experimenters solution.

For more info on argon Lasers checkout: Laserfaq.org
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