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Inducktion
Tue Feb 14 2012, 03:53AM Print
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Hey all, I was contemplating the idea of making an amplifier using these IGBT's Link2

They have a large linear zone, since they take roughly 5 volts to turn on into saturation.

Would it be feasible to make an amplifier with them? They seem like decent tube replacements, too.
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Conundrum
Tue Feb 14 2012, 08:34PM
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Digital amplifier maybe?
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Mattski
Wed Feb 15 2012, 05:01AM
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IGBT's probably aren't ideal for direct linear amplification, and based on online discussions I perused, their secondary breakdown may also force you to derate them quite a bit for audio applications: Link2 . But if you happened to buy one and do some measurements on it that would be fairly interesting. An IGBT might make for a very high power (somewhat) linear amplifier.

Really a switching amplifier will probably give better performance though, as IGBT's are made to switch. The IGBT you have there doesn't look like it's going to be happy switching terribly quickly, but you want to push as high above 20kHz as you can so that you can cut off your switching waveform without cutting off the audio.
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Experimentonomen
Thu Feb 16 2012, 11:13AM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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You may just as well throw these igbts in the trash. Your never gonna be able to build a working amplifier.
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Steve Conner
Thu Feb 16 2012, 12:25PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Oh, that's mean! frown

I have to agree that this IGBT wouldn't be my first choice for an amplifier, though. Maybe if I was stuck on a desert island, and it was the only device I had, and I lost my IPhone horn. Link2

I spotted this on a forum the other day: Link2
It's about the simplest amp you could imagine.
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Experimentonomen
Thu Feb 16 2012, 01:30PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Link2 <-- or this, i have built it with the values shown and it works flawlessly.

It does make the classic vintage "PLOUUMMMP" turn on thump but thats fully normal.
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Avalanche
Thu Feb 16 2012, 09:17PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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In terms of super simple amplifiers, this one Link2 has the lowest component count I have ever seen, and the author reckons it 'produces the most purest sound' (although no idea of THD).

I've been meaning to throw it together for fun ever since I found the article, and it's possible it might just do something with an IGBT instead of a MOSFET.
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Steve Conner
Thu Feb 16 2012, 09:37PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Wow. That just goes to show, given the choice between a simple project and a project that works, the DIY community will pick the simple one every time. smile

Seriously though, it might actually work with an IGBT. They're more temperature sensitive than lateral FETs, but the design has lots of DC feedback to stabilise the operating point.
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Conundrum
Thu Feb 16 2012, 10:41PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Fix for temperature sensitivity is to use a thermistor with negative coefficient, and a voltage divider.

-A
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Experimentonomen
Fri Feb 17 2012, 01:36AM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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I built a similar circuit with a fga25na120 or similar igbt, it worked but sounded like ass.
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