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Air coil voltage distribution

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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Feb 07 2012, 08:47PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Lets say I have a single layer air core coil, connected to a LC tuned circuit. Is there a formula I can use to calculate the voltage (or volt per turn) distribution along the length of the coil?
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Sulaiman
Tue Feb 07 2012, 08:51PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If the length of wire used to make the coil is much less than 1/4 wavelength then the volts/turn is linear.
As the length of wire approaches 1/4 wavelength a more sinusoidal volts/turn along the length will arise and need modeling.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Feb 07 2012, 09:00PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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It's my understanding that the flux density decreases near the ends of the coil, as some of the flux "escapes" in between the turns, especially with long coils. So I would think that the distribution won't be linear even at frequencies much lower than the 1/4 wavelength, but please correct me if I'm wrong... I need to know this in order to know where to tap a coil in a tuned circuit to get the required grid drive for a tube (which is just a small percentage of the total voltage across the coil).
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Patrick
Tue Feb 07 2012, 10:07PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Can you tap the coil in the middle with two wires, at a location where the field would be more linear?

perhaps an aircore transformer, if in in the MHz range, otherwise you may not be able to solve it empirically only experimentally.
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Sulaiman
Wed Feb 08 2012, 05:50AM
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If you only want a small percentage of the voltage could you use a separate coil for the grid drive that can be moved to adjust coupling?
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radiotech
Wed Feb 08 2012, 08:19AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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If is a series resonant LC circuit there will be current which is controlled by the
Q of the coil.

Lets say it is 1 ampere at 10 kHz, and the total inductance is 10 mHy.
At your tap, you could consider there is two coils in series. The two
coils are L1 + L2 + 2Lm = 10 mHy. 2Lm is found by measuring
each of the two coil segments alone, and subtracting their sum from
100 mHy. If you know the inductance from the bottom to the tap,
then you know the voltage by I*6.28*1E5*L

Would a tap at 1/10 the length from the bottom give about 70 volts ?
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