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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Dec 03 2011, 11:51AM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
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Hi,
I dismantled a small appliance universal motor with the intention of rewinding it. However the problem is that I don't know how the rotor coils were connected to the commutator. I know just where one end of one coil were, marked on the photos by an arrow on the armature and a black point on the commutator plate where it went.

See the attached pictures. The rotor armature has 8 parts and there are 16 plates on the commutator. There was a total of 16 coils on the armature, over every 3 parts of the armature there were 2 coils (hope that makes sense). There were around 88 turns on every of the 16 coils (the motor ran on 230 Vac). I searched the net and couldn't find any usable info.
Any help is appreciated smile

1322913028 152 FT0 P506

1322913029 152 FT0 P508

1322913029 152 FT0 P509
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tobias
Sun Dec 04 2011, 04:43PM
tobias Registered Member #1956 Joined: Wed Feb 04 2009, 01:22PM
Location: Jersey City
Posts: 172
Not the same motor, but maybe it helps
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Dec 06 2011, 11:47AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
Posts: 3384
Thank you, I just found the same tutorial on a different webpage.
I'll get more motors to experiment on, before rewinding them I'll try to observe the winding pattern (not so easy because it's usually not evident which wire goes where).
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radiotech
Tue Dec 06 2011, 06:06PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Motor rewinding is done two ways. First, use the manufacturers winding plan.
However, only the largest motors have such plans made available, on a private
basis to certain shops.

The next method is to take data from the motor that is to be rewound.

Wire size, insulation type if you can find that out.

Number of turns in each coil, and precise information on how they are connected,
of which direction of wind is critical.

You find this data by unwinding the motor and making a diagram.

Some types of armature windings. Simplex progressive, simplex retrogressive,
wave winding.....






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