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Discrete BLDC Motor Control

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Turkey9
Sun Oct 02 2011, 03:10AM Print
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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How feasible would it be to control a BLDC motor using nothing but transistors/comparators/op amps? I have a motor that outputs digital highs and lows for the sensors and was thinking I could use those to directly control the motor. Would this be more reliable than setting up a microcontroller? I need this motor to run when power is applied 100% of the time as it will be running a pump for a computer water cooling system. Thanks!
-Jesse
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Experimentonomen
Sun Oct 02 2011, 06:27AM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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You mean like i've done here ? Link2

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Shrad
Sun Oct 02 2011, 08:32AM
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a ring oscillator would be neat for this, and you can add any phase you need and synch it on a hall sensor
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hboy007
Tue Oct 04 2011, 08:46AM
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having built an open-loop BLDC driver Link2 I would strongly recommend taking the time to implement the hall encoder logic, too.

The best thing for your application would be to buy a cheap BLDC motor controller like the ones used in RC models.
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klugesmith
Tue Oct 04 2011, 05:29PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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The best thing for your application would be to buy a cheap BLDC motor controller like the ones used in RC models.
In my limited experience, those require a control input like that from a RC receiver:
a stream of pulses whose width indicates the throttle setting.
I substituted a 555 and a potentiometer.
Complication: my BLDC controller won't start before it detects a valid control input, whose pulse width is in the range for zero speed. Then it indicates "ready" by making the motor generate some beeps (which would augment your computer's acoustic signature when it starts up. smile )

Back to question in OP: sounds like a good project. There is a low-speed operating range where you can run the motor like a stepper, without feedback. Just cycle the stator phases, and the armature will follow.

"Mag drive" hydroponic/aquarium pumps have permanent magnet rotors, and perhaps use cheap shaded-pole or capacitor-run AC stators instead of switched DC. Link2

Submersible pumps sold for tabletop fountains are even cheaper, I bet using shaded pole stator with induction or PM rotors: Link2 Link2

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