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Birds navigate using "quantum compass" ?!

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Now this is intriguing.


From what I can find out, the effect is due to the blue sensing protein (cryptochrome) being sensitive to magnetic fields only in the recovery state, by one of the electron spins adjusting the recovery time.

If birds can navigate by sensing magnetic fields then its not impossible that humans have the same ability.

One wonders if the effect manifests itself at an unconscious level or at a conscious one?

Relatively easy to test, build a device consisting of a pair of goggles with ambient light blocking and diffused blue emitters so that the eyes see a uniform blue field, then turn on one of n magnetic coils.

If the theory is true, then the subject should see a slight change in brightness perpendicular to the magnetic coil activated.

Also, I found this intriguing quote.
"“Humans have an extremely efficient antioxidant enzyme, superoxide dismutase, that keeps superoxide at a very low concentration level, apparently too low for human cryptochromes to use. It seems that somewhere in our evolutionary history we might have traded our magnetic sense for longevity.”

That suggests a reduction or inhibition of superoxide dismutase might be all it takes to activate magnetic vision in humans. A quick search revealed that mice engineered to knock out this gene die within days of birth due to massive oxidative stress, which would presumably also kill any human infant born with an equivalent mutation. However it does still leave open the possibility that some people have been born with mutations that merely reduce the effectiveness of superoxide dismutase rather than knocking it out completely. Such people would suffer from a number of negative health effects but it seems plausible that they might be able to see magnetic fields. If it only occurs in severely ill children with short lifespans it seems very possible this extraordinary vision ability has been overlooked. Such children would have no idea that normal people lack their special magnetic vision ability. They would have little or no ability to explain it to adults around them. Those adults would likely be dismissive of any inexplicable behavior or comments by such children relating to this vision ability. Children who see “invisible things” simply have active imaginations.

It’s just a wild speculation, but an intriguing one "


What if... people who see ghosts and other strange things in certain areas are actually seeing magnetic field changes because they are missing one copy of the mop up enzyme?

Its not so implausible, if the effect only occurs under very specific conditions such as just the right level and wavelength mixture of light, etc then even people standing next to them would not see anything.

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